Having just watched the movie, the box states it's rated R...and in Canada, it's even 14A.
What explicit sexuality is this referring to? There wasn't even any nudity...
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The commentary on the DVD discusses this. It's the part where Blake performs orally on Carla (not vice versa). Note his position, behind her.
shareI cannot understand. Why it should be explicit. They even don't show her frontal body parts.
sharethe mpaa has a problem with seeing a head bobbing during oral... they always have, no matter how little is shown
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Also, for some part of that scene, she's facing away and he is behind her. (I hope if i use clinical terminology this won't need to be deleted.) The positioning could be taken to imply analingus. (I agree with your point that this isn't actually 'explicit'.)
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You could make a case that he was tossing her salad, when's the last time you went to a theater and saw that? Let alone immediately following giving a guy a handjob. It was pretty explicit despite the darkness. Just because they don't have everything lit up doesn't mean it's not explicit.
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when's the last time you went to a theater and saw that?
Just because there's no nudity doesn't mean it's not explicit. If you watch the scene again you can see quite a few things going on that would earn the rating (see above comments). The ratings are there in part to warn parents-that scene would be something I would definitely want to know about to help me decide about letting my kids see the movie or not! PG it ain't!
shareI don't think it's NC-17 worthy but it definitely explicit and I must say, pretty damn hot.
shareI have to go ahead and point out that the word "explicit" means, as defined by dictionary.com:
–adjective
1.
fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal,
5.
having sexual acts or nudity clearly depicted
I haven't seen the movie, just reading the message boards, but I have to say it sounds like people need to pay attention to what words mean. Including the MPAA. I'm not arguing that my kids should watch it, or your kids should watch it, or anyone's kids should watch it, or anything else, for that matter. Just saying, literally, it's not explicit. Why can't people mean what they say?
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No, this was NOT EXPLICIT in the least. The actions are implied AND concealed, NO nudity. Explicit would qualify in a scene which shows actual skin to skin contact, between genitals or mouth, which was concealed like a soft-core porn where people are doing it with their clothes on and angles are always shown from the back of the woman's head. So no, this movie was not explicit by any means. Very suggestive. Hot? I don't think so, I thought it was pretty boring. If it is going to get an NC-17 rating they could have at least thrown in a penis or something... jeez
shareOR it could just mean that you need to stop being anal about the specific definitions of words in the dictionary because real world applications are OFTEN different.
shareHmmm. So one guy writes down the rules using carefully chosen words, and then someone else comes along much later and interprets it anyway they choose with the excuse "real world applications are often different". I don't know, seems like that might cause problems in other areas of life, like religion for example.
So when it comes to using a set of written standards, we should all be anal.
I would feel uncomfortable watching the scene with my mom, therefore i say it is explicit enough. But i see your point, you don´t actually get to see any nudity. Still it is quite obvious what is happening and i also think the scene go beyond implying what they do.
Ever seen a censored porno? This is what they look like but with boobs.
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WHAAAAATT!!!! These people are insane! One little sex scene that doesn't even show nudity?! What is the world coming to?
The MPAA is sexist. They won't allow female genitalia to be shown and they won't allow any oral sex on FEMALES to be shown. They will, however, allow MALE genitalia to be shown and simulated oral sex on men to be shown. This film didn't show anything explicit at all, no female genitalia, and the oral sex was hidden from view and simulated, but it was still given an NC-17 rating. What a joke. Meanwhile, movies like Bruno and Hall Pass show long, lingering, gratuitous close-ups of male genitalia graphically displayed and they are passed with an R-rating. Ever see a clear, close-up shot of a vagina in a film passed with an R-rating? (I'm talking about the actual vagina, not just pubic hair) No, you haven't. Ever wonder why not?
Movies like the Hangover have portayed fellatio and they were passed with R-ratings. But show a woman being orally pleasured, even if there is NO GENETALIA SHOWN and the sex act is hidden from view, and the film is slapped with an NC-17 rating. The movie Blue Valentine had a similar scene, where a man put his face near a woman's butt (no actual genitalia was shown and no actual sex occurred) and it was given an NC-17 also. The director fought it because he had just seen the movie Jackass3D with his daughter and was appalled by the graphic male nudity and the fact that it was passed with an R-rating. He thought it was absurd that men's penises can clearly be shown and passed with R-ratings and his film, that showed no genital nudity at all, was being slapped with an NC-17 rating. The MPAA has a totally unfair and sexist rating policy. They rate female genital nudity harsher than male genital nudity (rating male genitalia "R" but female genitalia "NC-17") and female sexual stimulation is rated harsher also. So he appealed the rating and won. More filmakers need to fight the corrupt MPAA and directors need to start showing vaginas and force the MPAA and the public to accept seeing female genitalia. If the MPAA rates their film NC-17 because female genitalia is shown, then they need to SUE the MPAA for having a sexually discriminatory rating policy and seek damages.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head, but Pretty Persuasion has two scenes with female oral sex, not shown on screen, and it's only rated R
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I just watched the scene and I believe it is stupid that it got this rating for that scene alone!
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there's oral sex, would you like to watch that with a kid by your side?
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