Anakin killing Windu scene, was so poorly done/written

Anakin annoyed me so much in that scene. He's constantly breaking the laws of the Jedi and yet he talks about "the Jedi way" in keeping Palpatine alive. Granted it's for a selfish reason, but the way this whole scenario was scripted was bad. I wanted to punch him when he whined afterwards in attacking Mace Windu.

It also annoyed me how Mace couldn't even convince Anakin to see how evil Palpatine is by not mentioning Qui-Gon Jinn's fate.

The worst part of the movie: the Palpatine confrontation

There are so many plotholes in this part of the movie:

1. Why wouldn't Mace Windu and the other Jedi confront Palpatine in public or in the Senate? This could potentially expose him as a Sith Lord, and the Senate would be unlikely to grant him any additional power.

2. Why would the Senators buy Palpatine's story? How could an average person survive an assassination attempt by Jedi Knights? How exactly would one be "scarred" and turn into grotesque looking monster because of the Jedi? Everything points to Palpatine being evil and having supernatural powers but the Senators are too stupid to pick up on it.

3. Palpatine becomes deformed by his Force Lightning. Why doesn't Luke get deformed by Palpatine's lightning in ROTJ?

4. Who were those weak Jedi with Mace Windu that didn't even fight back? Using a lightsaber when you have tentacles on your head that flail every which way is a dumb idea may I add.

5 Anakin says "it's not the Jedi way" when Mace Windu is about to kill Palpatine.

6. Earlier, Palpatine told Anakin "only I can save the one you love." But then says "the power to cheat death is a power only one has achieved. Together, we can work to uncover the secret." So Palpatine lied and made a false promise. If I was Anakin, I'd be pretty pissed.

7. Anakin has essentially just learned that Palpatine was the one orchestrating the assassination attempts on Padme. You can make some BS claim about the Dark Side clouding his judgement, but that's a pretty big oversight.

8. Others say Palpatine was that grotesque looking monster thing all along and merely dropped his guise . If so, why is this the first time we see Palpatine exploit this ability to shapeshift? If I was Palpatine, I would turn into the monster looking thing while talking to my Sith apprentices, just in case anyone saw me. I would also revert back to my normal self before appearing in front of the Senate. After all, asking the Senate to give you supreme power when, in a matter of hours, you became a deformed monster in a black cloak is a pretty tough sell.

Windu, yet another cardboard figure from the prequels... just standing there for 3 movies.

You should have been relieved when he died :)

I'm just on my way up to Clavius.

IMO altho hats off to GL for giving us such an entertaining and versatile franchise - he then busily set about screwing the whole thing so badly it's breathtaking... From basics like the fact Light Sabers should only be able to be made to function by their individual creators - with their subsequent power and versatility (ie. what and how well they can cut, what types and how well they can deflect blaster shots etc.) dependent on the degree of force mastery of their operator - to more nuanced aspects like the characterisation of Anakin in RotS, Lucas almost completely misses the mark with virtually ALL aspects of the SW saga outside the basic plotlines.

The characterisation of Anakin in RotS is completely wrong and awful and IS terribly and clumsily written. His moody, whiney *beep* characterisation leaves the audience with no other choice but to rejoice in his final crossing of the line to the dark side - with a huge sigh of relief and a "thank god for that!!". The physical character used should have been someone like the actor who plays Anakin's cousin in the film - a baby faced, irrepressibly cheerful and thoroughly likeable character reminiscent of young Anni who everyone ends up totally endeared to and watching with real horror as the steps of his subversion at the hands of Palpatine unfold.

Alan Dean Foster in his novelisation of A New Hope aludes to one of the final steps in a Jedi's achieving mastery of the force being construction of their first Light Saber. In a spinoff novel also by AD Foster called "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" the story centres on a mystical Crystal which amplifies The Force - in fact Leah is killed in battle with Darth Vader at the end of the novel but Luke brings her back to life with the Crystal.

Force Crystals are also touched on in the pc game "Jedi Knight II" where "Dark Troopers" use crystals to fight using force powers (the player battles these individual Dark Troopers at stages thruout the game - picking up a crystal at the end of each successful despatching of a Dark Trooper and increasing their own strength). SO... - perhaps Palpatine's subversion of Anakin could be based on his having a Crystal which he uses to gradually seduce him by warping his nature and amplifying the Dark Side influence in him.

The possibilities are endless and fascinating - for example the whole Crystal idea could basically be what defines Sith vs Jedi - ie. Sith embrace an "easy" path to developing Force Powers via use of these mystical Crystals - with the type of Force Power developed being of course Dark Force - whereas Jedi very deliberately eschew such "mechanical" means to developing Force Powers and instead tread the more enlightened and positive path of embracing The Force contained in all living organisms.

All kinds of elaboration are possible - ie. perhaps Force Crystals don't occur naturally (or if so, only extremely rarely) but are actually generated and grown thru meditation and specific type of focus by force adepts - with again the central notion being that as opposed to the positive living organism type force their force power is lifeless and basically "dark side" in nature. Perhaps the critical part of a Jedi building a saber is to create a tiny "seed" force crystal - which involves mastery of being able to focus and control dark force to a certain degree without being drawn to the dark side - and then tune and focus it within the mechanism to be able to generate the force blade of the saber - a physical manifestation of focussed force power, and the only such "mechanical" usage of the force tolerated by Jedi.

Perhaps the nature of force crystals could be somehow bizaarly similar to the physics involved in power couplings which are used for things such as energy tethers and force field generators etc. - so the basis of young Anni's ability to be a successful podracer was because his naturally extremely strong force power led to him to not only be able to exercise superhuman reflexes to successfully drive his podracer in competition against non humans but also completely accidentally and obliviously generate minute amounts of dark force crystalline matter within the power couplings of his racer - thus making it much more powerful than it otherwise should have been according to the limited resouces and quality of materials he had at his disposal to build it. This early untutored exposure to dark force might be the factor subsequently recognised and exploited by Palpatine. The possibilities are endless and much richer and more sophisticated than anything George Lucas himself has demonstrated any ability to come up with - I mean - really? - midichlorians!?!?! - OMGWTF!!!???

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So much was ruined in just one scene, not that the prequels could have been saved at that point but goddamn that was the ONE scene that if done right could have given these horrible movies a reason to exist.

But no, Lucas had to ruin that one too by completely humiliating the Emperor by turning him into a pussy who begs for his life like a wimpy Disney villain (I guess the joke is on me now...) and resorting to lame cowardly tricks to defeat an opponent that he should be capable of Force-electrocuting to death in a second.

Strongest Lord of the Sith my ass : Palpatine is a weakling and a pussy now, thanks a lot Lucas you fat idiot.

The whole movie is poorly written.

OP, STFU.

The rest of you on this thread who agree with him: STFU.

The scenes are AWESOME. End of.