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So why ARE the Jedi forbidden to "form close attachments"?

posted 6 years ago by Otter (24464)
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I think it's to keep Force dynasties like the Skywalker's from arising. That would be so much power in the hands of a family that they'd easily become hereditary rulers or tyrants, or a superior social class who were above the law or above retribution. And because if a Force dynasty ever bred a bad 'un like Ben Solo, they'd protect the little horror because of familial love. That's a danger to the whole Galaxy right there.

So some people have complained about the emphasis in TLJ on how anyone anywhere can get born to power in the Force, instead of it being all about the Skywalker dynasty, but IMHO Force power must have been distributed randomly all along. How else would the Jedi keep going generation after generation, if they do not reproduce much? Why else would Qui-Gon carry a Midichlorians test kit in his pocket, if he didn't meet random kids with the potential to become Jedi every so often?

[–] ghostboy (652) 6 years ago

That's an interesting theory, I never considered

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

And it all ties into why Leia hid her Force capabilities; she wanted to establish a representative government, and she wouldn't have been effective as a politician if she'd been known as someone who could or might be able to pull "Jedi mind tricks". No other politician would negotiate with her if she openly used the Force. And she didn't want to be part of a Force Dynasty, because she believed in, yeah, representative government.

Some of the things the fanboys are objecting to are actually Johnson stating the obvious, such as Leia and random kids using the Force. Those things had to be so, had to be so all along.

[–] Renovatio (2990) 6 years ago

It's a system of control... To keep the jedi slaves...

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Actually Yoda had it all wrong (He didn't even know about Force ghosts and so that shows you how pious and up his ass was he).

The original message was "Don't open attachments" but because he didn't understand technology that much and poor English grasp, had he, he interpreted it wrongly.

The same goes with two other displays of his tomfoolery; the prophecy and the Sith being only two, no more, no less.

I'm with the Empire when it comes to Yoda's idiocy.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Hate on Yoda all you like, but was HE the one who told Luke that Darth Vader murdered his father?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

He did withhold it though until his death.

Not exactly a top bloke in my opinion!

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

It doesn't do to look too closely at any of the Jedi.

If you do look at Yoda, or Ben, or the Jedi order seen in the prequels, you start siding with Luke in TLJ.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Like I've tried to say the Empire dindu nuffin!

[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

To quote Aemon Targaryen, I think it’s because love is the death of duty. Anakin’s experience of being plagued by prophetic-seeming nightmares about Padme’s death was probably common among Jedi who formed deep emotional attachments.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Aemon was a wise old sumbitch, and yeah, he got it right. So we've seen both romantic love turn a the dimwitted Anakin to the Dark Side, and familial love break Luke's heart so badly that he turned away from the Force for years.

I have a theory, a theory about the Jedi. We've seen Luke and Rey learn to use their powers with minimal or no training, yet the Jedi trained their accolytes for years, decades, before making them full-fledged Jedi Knights or Jedi Masters. My theory is that using the Force is very easy for people with inborn ability, yet teaching them to use it wisely, in ways that won't do more harm than good, takes decades! And even that wasn't long enough in Anakin's case.