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A ?? RE: the 'Firebird' sequence...


I found this sequence both moving AND scary; but...doesn't the animation look VERY 'different' from other Disney cartoons? Didn't it look a little 'Japanese Anime' style? Anyone have any facts RE: this particular sequence?

TIA

NM

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I completely agree! I instantly thought of anime too, definitely. To me, this was the most beautiful and moving sequence, along with the Resphighi piece of flying whales! I thought that was far out. As a whole, I thought the quality of all the segments was a little too variable. I could have done without the 'Pomp and Circumstance' and flamingo sequences. And it was short! As far as imagination and consistency were concerned, I'd still go for the original Fantasia. 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' has buckets of style and inspiration, a lot better than some of the weaker segments of this feature.

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There is a bit of Princess Mononoke in there.

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Definitely! I know that one

Dicky

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Before people call this a rip-off, I would like to point out that this was being made before Princess Mononoke was released in USA. I looked at the model sheets for this particular section on the Fantasia Legacy disc and they all said 1997. This was the year Princess Mononoke was released in Japan. I don't know if these sheets were created before or after the event. But I highly doubt that they were thinking of something that wasn't released in their country yet.

"HOPSCOTCH!"

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Thanks for the additional information! Although I sometimes like to point out where Disney and his team got their inspiration from (in the original Fantasia, the geometric shapes in the Toccata piece are based on Oskar Fischinger's designs, the soundtrack squiggles look a lot like Len Lye, the devil in the Mussorgsky sequence refers to Murnau's Faust, and the swirling witches' dance can be found in Alexandre Alexeieff's illustration of the same piece) - I would never call these rip-offs.

I now wonder if there was something similar in anime that could have inspired Disney. I think Miyazaki's previous animations were different in tone?

Dicky

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It's funny you should bring that up because that leads into another connection with this particular movie. I was watching a documentary on the Spirited Away and there was talk about Miyazaki's works and the head visual effects man on Fantasia/2000 said how for influence on the clouds in "Pines of Rome" they looked at Miyazaki's films (I think they referred to Castle in the Air for that one.)

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