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real and true love...

posted 15 years ago by appalonia
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the first time i seen this movie it was titled "immortality" and i liked it even then. i just watched it recently again and it's still as good as the first time i seen it. this time i noticed....that he thought real love would cure him but it's funny because his goal seemed to make the women fall in love with him even tho i noticed he didn't say the words to them. the only one he said those words to were anne and she never admitted to loving him. it's almost a fitting kind of justice he finally fell in love only she didn't love him back. she was unsure. i think given time tho she might have eventually fallen for him and admitted it. it brings me back to that one scene where she came back to the apartment and seen him making the bed realizing his intentions. i wonder if she wouldn't have came back...what would have happened. would he have stopped again??? or would he have killed her this time??? or if there was a way to turn her would he have done that to spend forever with her??? anyone else have those thoughts???

drink from me and live forever...

[–] majeff7 15 years ago

It's always great to respond to another fan of this amazing film. I've loved every inch of it for years. I am only now just reading the book. Unfortunately, I think that his entire attitude towards Anne was a trap to get her to love him. I suspect that he overemphasized how sick he was in order to gain her sympathy and confidence. It was not malice on his part, but survival and possibly the path to redemption. I read it further as a metaphor for male-female relationships, the man feeding off the emotions of the woman, good and bad. My favorite scene in the film is where Grlscz is listening to the voicemails left by Anne, folding the mylar sheet back up. His face, body language, everything reflects a lost little boy or fallen angel-it is just beautiful to see that mix of conflict, guilt, need.

What is your favorite scene?

[–] Nuclearchic 14 years ago

I sort of felt similar in some respects, and that there were some lose ends. I agree about the irony, it's an interesting touch. All in all I'm a little blase, but I thought this was the first Vampire film which was a little more interesting for the characters than any of the others I've seen; not my favorite genre generally.

[–] silentidominus 14 years ago

Hahaha. Get real, he never fell in love with her. She was dinner.

I'm positive that what we saw with Anne was the normal routine, up until she interrupted the place-setting for the big meal. Make them get into you, leave them so they feel like they need you more. Let them know you're a vampire and that you want to change and be better. (Reveal the truth because if they're loving a lie it's not really love.) Make them realize they're something more than just lunch. Now they love the real him and it's more profound so they'll give him what he needs. As soon as they're not looking put down the plastic sheet so you don't make a huge mess, they come back and you feed up and move on.

He was a monster and a very sleek, skilled one at that. Meticulous, methodical, cold, killer.

[–] psilome 13 years ago

I beg to differ, he DID lover her, he was undecided - the choice to kill her wasnt made until he was changing plaster on his finger and looking at himself in the mirror and seeing what he had become. He was a killer by nature, as vampires are, it doesnt mean that would be ALL that they are. The weaker he got the more that nature took over him - the hunger.

[–] ciprianl 9 years ago

No, I don't believe that he was undecided at all. He planned to kill her from the beginning, he even put a label with her name next to an empty slot in his souvenir box, where he kept the crystals that he excreted after every kill. One should not trust crocodile tears (nor his professed love).

Instead, I think that he planned to trick her into giving her life to him willingly, out of love. Remember that he also kept separate notebooks for every kill, and on the last page of each he wrote the name of an emotion, probably the last that his victims have felt. And all we have seen written were rather negative ones. I remember one of them was despair. Maybe he was a gourmet and wanted to taste something like devotion or "true love".