Views on Suicide


I was a little dissapointed the movie portrayed suicides as going to a "different place" a hellish existence.

I read similar views on this board such as "I think we can all agree that suicide is horribly sad and wasteful".

I think not. Suicides are entirely relative.
Sometimes "life is horribly sad and wasteful".

I have nothing but sympathy for people who suffer greatly either in life or death.
Lying in bed year after year in pain, in torture is not a good life, its a bad life and I have absolutely no problem with people who are miserable opting out of life. There are many examples other than the one I gave above.

I see no obligation to live if you know it is going to be bad from here on out.
I also believe in intelligent creation, a God if you will.

I say whatever you do with your own body, your life is entirely a matter between you and your creator. Stay out of others lives and quit condemning them to hell. You might just find if you are one who condemned others to hell you will be judged and condemned in a similar way. Ye reap what ye sow.

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The Catholic Church used to practice that persons committing suicide could not have a Catholic funeral mass and burial. However, the Church has since changed this practice.

Conservative Protestants have often argued that because suicide involves self-murder, then anyone who commits it is sinning and is the same as if the person murdered another human being. An additional view concerns the act of asking for salvation and accepting Jesus Christ as personal savior, which must be done prior to death. This is an important aspect of many Protestant denominations, and the problem with suicide is that once dead the individual is unable to accept salvation. The unpardonable sin then becomes not the suicide itself, but rather the refusal of the gift of salvation.

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The church also covered up and enabled a crap load of paedophile priests, so I wouldn't look to them for a lesson in morality.

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I think suicide outter selfish acts cost you to go to hell but not when your in pain and dont think straight. God wouldnt be that pathetic to do this to the man he loves.

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Hmm...so pain makes people not think straight?

How do we determine whether it was a selfish act?

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Why be a nob eh... Pain comed in different forms and effects ppl many ways.

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My view is that it's a personal matter, unless you're leaving behind children who love and need you.

Someone else brought up the point that even hell is "all in your mind" (by the movie's philosophy), so she actually went where she chose to go. And it makes sense, as most everyone who commits suicide is likely to feel a lot of guilt. (not saying they always should)


Note: I believe it's always tragic when a youth commits suicide.



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Not hard to believe at all.

If you throw away God's greatest gift (life), you've insulted God, you go to Hell.

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The whole film is based around a fundamentalist Christian conception of a three-tiered afterlife, which in itself was a copy of pagan originals e.g. the Viking Hel, Midgard and Asgard.

Given we're in a medieval set-up, it is no surprise to find the medieval concept of suicide as a sin. The Catholic Church used not to bury victims in the same churchyard.

I don't think the author is judging suicides, rather recreating an old myth and using its tenets as plot devices.

It's all made-up anyway, so don't worry!

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The person who commits suicide is a victim of a crime against herself. There is no Hell, but the suicidal must face the consequences of their choices in the after life, untill they are ready to move on, probably trough a new reincarnation, and when born again must face the consequences in a new life for what they have done in the previous. Its a cycle. The suffering we must endure in life is necessary in our way towards improvement, and its always a result of what we have done to ourselves and the other people around us. We always have another chance for atonement. People who are suffering in life need medical and psychological help and its always very sad when they get to the point of taking its own life. Of course, if you or anyone dont believe in life after death, do what you want, believe what you want, but I guess everyone sooner or later will find the truth.

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The problem is the idea of it being a "lesson" is, upon reincarnation, you completely forget the lessons previous, you have to relearn everything, therefore, the test is not in any way. "fair", as various environmental factors can make a person bad.
Facing the conquences in a new life, when you don't remember what it is you did, isn't teaching a lesson, its being sadistic, because unless they know why, the reasons, then to them, its an injustice of life, not a lesson.
A lesson teaches, being born into a tough life or crippled body, is merely sadistic form of vengeance if anything.

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Robin Williams was a total jerk for killing himself. Completely selfish.

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