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I'm sorry, no one here finds it odd...


That Warner Brothers decided to take an adult novel featuring rape and beheadings and turn it into a kid's musical with cuddly animal sidekicks?

(Throws hands up in disgust)

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Oh please. Disney has been doing it for years.
The Little Mermaid- Death of main character
Hercules- Hero slews wife and child
Pocahontas II- Woman kidnapped from homeland/ implied rape (and this was for real)
Aladdin - Woman made to tell stories to her husband so he wouldnt murder her like the rest of his wives (Aladdin being one of the stories)
The Hunchback of Notredame - Attempted rape/Death of all main characters/sexual misadventures/ cheating

Gimmee a break man.

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You're right. I hadn't thought about it like that.

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Hercules and Hunchback are probably the worst stories Disney made movies of. Along with what you said there, don't forget that in Hercules, Zeus was sleeping around, and his wife, Hera, who was also his -sister-, got angry. In Hunchback, I think you pretty much got all of it. xD I have no CLUE whose idea it was to turn that into a kids movie.

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Yeah... I actually like Disney's Hunchback but no that wasn't a great idea...
It doesnt bother me though when they touch pieces of historical fiction like that though... Im sure it might bother a few of the authors if they were still alive but... hey at least their story lives on in some form, right?
It does bother me when they touch on history though. It upsetted me to find out that John Rolfe was really some *beep* who forced Pocahontas to go to the new world and marry him. I think that's an insult to the real life pain and strife that she went through. You dont turn historical bad guys into good guys and have their victims fall in love with them. Thats just very... sad.

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Eh, you would be very wrong in your doubting then.
And it's not how many people read it as much as that it's insulting to her memory.

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Don't forget Carlo Collodi's Pinocchio, where the main character bites off a cat's hand -- who then attempts to hang him -- and the monster blocking the road who laughs himself to death.


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Or Sleeping Beauty, where the prince impregnates Aurora whilst she's sleeping, who then gives birth to babies WHILE SHE'S ASLEEP, then the babies wake her up by sucking on her finger instead of her boob, untrapping the spindle thing lodged in her finger.

That would have made a veeeery interesting movie...

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Eerrr.. Where did you get THAT version of Sleeping Beauty??

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It's in the stories that "inspired" the popular version of Sleeping Beauty. Quoting Wikipedia:

"Perrault transformed the tone of Basile's "Sole, Luna, e Talia". Beside differences in tone, the most notable differences in the plot is that the sleep did not stem from a curse, but was prophesied; that the king did not wake Talia from the sleep with a kiss, but raped her, and when she gave birth to two children, one sucked on her finger, drawing out the piece of flax that had put her to sleep, which woke her; and that the woman who resented her and tried to eat her and her children was not the king's mother but his jealous wife. The mother-in-law's jealousy is less motivated, although common in fairy tales.

There are earlier elements that contributed to the tale, in the medieval courtly romance Perceforest (published in 1528), in which a princess named Zellandine falls in love with a man named Troylus. Her father sends him to perform tasks to prove himself worthy of her, and while he is gone, Zellandine falls into an enchanted sleep. Troylus finds her and impregnates her in her sleep; when their child is born, he draws from her finger the flax that caused her sleep."

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That's one version of it, not the Grimms'. This was based more on Tchaikovsky's ballet.

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Many of the stories "adapted" by Disney really were originally intended for children, though, including The Little Mermaid. What truly puzzles me are movies like Mulan, the aforementioned Pocahontas, or the Fox production (and most puzzling of them all) Anastasia. I mean, who reads through such dark and gruesome episodes of real life history and decides that they would make great premises for cutesy animated features? Give it another twenty years and they'll do a CGI adaptation of the holocaust featuring singing shower heads and Hitler as an evil magician.

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I am *so* confused by this thread. I was under the impression that adaptions of Rapunzel, not Sleeping Beauty, were the ones in which the protagonist has twins in her sleep (and is explored more extensively in the young adult adaption Zel by Donna Jo Napoli).

The Grimm version I have of Sleeping Beauty is the more classic, almost Disney-esque one without any mention of rape or the like, while my Grimm version of Rapunzel is the one that mentions babies haven been born. :P


I'm going to have to reread those two, because as I said, I'm totally confused.

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Wow. I've never really had a problem with any of Disney's movies, but when put that way... O___O

I totally get your confusion with how people managed to adapt these stories from less than happy true life events, because now I'm totally baffled on how they could've come up with them.

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Op forgot to mention incest (with Devon and Cornwall's parents being cousins)

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So long as the rape and beheadings are not included in the movie, what's the problem?


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Ok, I just got done reading the book, and I have to say, other than a few characters with the same name and a blind hero, the book and the movie have zilch in common. In fact, they could've left the credit for the book off the movie, and even Vera Chapman (The author) wouldn't recognize it.

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Well, the musical "Camelot" had already been done, so I suppose they had to do their own take on the story, the only problem being that they excluded most of the actual legend.

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It's been a while since I read the book, but I totally don't remember there being a rape in it...:/

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The very beginning of the novel, the protagonist feared her new husband would realize she wasn't a virgin because she had been raped in her back story. Later she finds him and beheads him and is even haunted by his ghost for a while.

Did you read the real novel or some kiddie novelization movie tie in? The novel isn't called Quest for Camelot. It's called The King's Damosel.

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