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This film is WAY better than M:I:3!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW the hell could Tom think that going from JON MOTHERFU**ING WOO to J.J. Abrahams was a GOOD idea!!???


M:I:3 dosn't hold a candle (or cigarette) to the awesomeness that is this film.

BALE-BRODY
Batman: Haunted Knight
JUNE 2008

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All of these movies are kind of average. I just rewatched this one a few days ago. And upon further review, huh?, shallow characterizations and so so action scenes. When do you duel your nemesis on a motorcycle, or grapple with him in the sand? Come on.

And another issue I had with this movie, when the bad guys had Ethan in their sights, they say 'freeze' or 'don't move', but a few seconds before they were willing to kill him. Woo's American bullets can't seem to find their targets anymore. He needs to go back to China and reclaim the glory, and maybe make a movie where the bullets actually work.



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I'll come to john woo's defense! It seems every action picture i view that i extremly enjoy seems to have his name in the Director's slot! Example: Face Off

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Well, then no wonder I loathed it - "Face Off" was so over-produced as well. This was the most over-produced, over-stylized, poorly-written, big-budget action film i have seen in a while. This, we had to see before seeing MI:3 with our free ticket included with the MI/MI: II box set and we had already seen the original MI film. Even my 9 1/2 yo aspiring-filmmaker son, who had been begging me to see this film, kept asking "how much longer" and saying things like "oh, yeah like that's gonna happen" or "just how many slow motion shots are they gonna use in this movie?" He's a huge MI fan, plays the video games, has the music fromt the original show, etc. - he was disappointed. I hear that MI: 3 is much better... can't wait to get the bad taste of this stinker out of my mouth.

Look what's on my shelf, now: http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/azcuriousm4u/misc%20personal%20pics/?action=view&current=IMGP0307.jpg

Ted in Gilbert, AZ

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also mi2 actually had a story mi3 didnt it was just action nothing else and also mission impossible fans were not expecting them to come out to australia to film mission impossible 2.

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MI3 is a PATHETIC grab-for-cash Toms acting is HORRIBLE you could tell all he had on his mind was KATIE KATIE KATIE!!!!!!

He didn't give a DAMN about the 3rd film.


The cinematogrphy very was dark & very un-clear too.

MI2 was very CLEAR in the way the story was told.

The fight scenes were WAY beter.

BALE-BRODY
Batman: Haunted Knight
JUNE 2008

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If it wasn't for the last half an hour, M:I 2 would be virtually unwatchable. I like most of John Woo's work (Hard Boiled being the best) but I could not bear to watch any more slow-motion-walking-down-the-street stuff. The bike chase and final punch-up is JUST enough to warrant a viewing.

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Agreed, MI 2 is a classic IMHO.

S.

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Hell no! MI3 is WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY better then #2!!!!!

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M:I 2 is a classic? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHA...
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are. You. Sh*tting. Me.

Going from Woo to J.J. Abrams was the best decision Paramount ever made. If you have never heard of him, you must be living in a cave! He's one of the best up and comers. Going from Brian De Palma to John Woo... now THAT was a bad move!

M:I 3 had some semblance of realism to its action. M:I 2 was basically half slow motion. Seriously, this would have been a short movie otherwise. The action in M:I 3 had me gripping my seat, while M:I 2 had me going WTF every few seconds. Plus, 3 had an interesting plot, while 2 bored me half to death! You guys must be hardcore John Woo die hards to defend this movie!

"He didn't give a DAMN about the 3rd film."

Yeah, thats why he worked so hard for years just to get this made!

"It doesn't feel right to shoot an unarmed man... but I'll get over it."

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Mission: Impossible III is when the series finally started to hit its grove (it wasn't too bogged down in an overly convoluted plot and light on action like the first one and it wasn't too thin on plot and too heavy with the over-the-top, cartoonish action like the second one) and figure out the formula (it was the one that introduced Simon Pegg's Benji to the fold, who would become the best known character in the movies besides Tom Cruise's Ethan and Ving Rhames' Luther) that the series should take. You don't have to watch the first two movies before going into M:I3. It was also the first one in the series to have a truly memorable villain (apologies to Dougray Scott) in Phillip Seymour Hoffman's sinister arms dealer.

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DeadlySinner Abrams is overrated as hell and a total hack, he couldn't come up with anything original if his life depended on it.

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WHAT THE FU** was Tom thinking???????

BALE-BRODY
Batman: Haunted Knight
JUNE 2008

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I really don't believe you guys, M:I-2 is the most horribal film, can any one of you give me one good reason to watch it beyond the last ten minutes of the movie. Can anybody watch this film multiple times all the way through without just watching it from the motorcycle stuff at the end of the picture? I doubt it because the only good thing was the ending and the entire first hour sucked to high hell, which is basically the entire movie. M:I-3 was much more coherent and watchable and at least it delivered on its action unlike 2 where we had to wait an entire hour and 45 minutes.

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I agree m.i.2 sucked untill the last 20 minutes of the movie and I can never make it through the fight scene at the end because there is too much slo mo and WAY too long.

M.i.1 is my second favorite because it balances action with cool spy stuff and there is action throughout not just in the last 20 min.

M.i.3 is my favorite because there is so much action, so many cool gadgets and I liked the overall style of it because of its occasional shaky cam and the score is awsome!

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"I really don't believe you guys, M:I-2 is the most horribal film, can any one of you give me one good reason to watch it beyond the last ten minutes of the movie. Can anybody watch this film multiple times all the way through without just watching it from the motorcycle stuff at the end of the picture? I doubt it because the only good thing was the ending and the entire first hour sucked to high hell, which is basically the entire movie. M:I-3 was much more coherent and watchable and at least it delivered on its action unlike 2 where we had to wait an entire hour and 45 minutes."

That's the problem with 3 though. There is simply too much action, and not enough of everything else. 1 and 2 had variety, and 3 copped out, and was on ADD action mode. I mean the first and second movies, although they have action are not really action movies. They are more spy/adventure thrillers. 3 was trying to be an all out constant Rambo. Also 1 and 2 had two of the greatest action sequences ever put on film. 3 had mediocre action, with shaky cams and modern CGI stuff. And to think with such a big budget, you wouldn't need all that and could have made it look more real.

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Mi3 is way better than part 2, the second one sucked.

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no way Mi2 has the best action scenes EVER put on screen!!!!

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You can say that, but I think otherwise(maybe I should watch it again and maybe my opinion can actually change in which actually liking the movie). But I like Mi3 better.

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i agree with original poster pretty much.

MI2 is easily the best of the three movies.

mi1/mi3 lack something that mi2 has... i think it's the character interaction ... plus i think thandie newton worked great with tom cruise.

this movie has moments that the other two dont have and not to mention it's action scenes are great.

9/10 (mi1 and mi3 = 8/10... although originally i went with a 7/10 for mi3 cause after seeing mi2 my hopes where probably unrealitically high for mi3 so i was disappointed but after seeing mi3 a few times it's good now but not as good as mi2)

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I actually agree with the OP. MI2 is better then 3. MI 2 actually had a consistant plot while three didn't really. In 3 there were more explosions, more over the top acting and action sequences and by the end of the film you never actually find out what the rabbit foot is. In 2 I felt there was chemistry between Ethan and Nya while in 3 I felt there was no chemistry between Ethan and his new female counterpart. I do agree the action scenes in 2 were OVERLY stylized but that is my only discretion with that film. Overall it is better then 3, not way better but better.

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MI:2 was much better than 1 or 3. 1 was interesting but it made no sense. 3 was just kind of dull. 2 had some plot holes. all of them do, i think because they concentrate too much on the action instead of the thriller aspect of the original series. plus, i agree with an earlier poster cruise had good chemistry with thandie newton.

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BDCNewYork Part 1 made sense to me, what didn't make sense to you?

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Anyone who uses the word "better" or "best" or "worst" etc here is wrong!

You've got your favourite, your 2nd favorite and your least favorite.

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IMO MI1 is the best by far.

MI2 and MI3 are more or less in the same league. I don't see a great difference in terms of quality between both sequels.

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