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some facts about the real life of the man in the iron mask


- he did exist, his existence is cited in many official documents and correspondence.

-was in different prisons for a total of ~40 years

-most likely did not have to wear his mask when he was alone. He wore it only in the company of others when transferred from one prison to another. He would've gotten executed if somebody saw his face.

-his identify is unknown. There has been many many theories on who he was. The most popular one is that he was a messenger between the kings of France and England, so he knew too much. Another popular theory is that he was no one important, the prison manager had lost his 2 highest profile prisoners, so he put a mask on a new prisoner to make people believe that he was someone very important, thus elevating the prison status. Another theory is that he was the bastard child of Queen D'Autriche.

-Extremely unlikely that he was Louis 14 twin brother since queens gave birth in public.






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It may seem unlikely, but it still is a theory and a possibility.

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Hypothesis, not theory.

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They're synonyms, helper....



Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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They're synonyms, helper....


"Theory" and "Hypothesis" are most certainly not synonyms.

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Wow......just, wow. With the internet at their fingertips, people continue to deliberately type stupid stuff, when they have every chance to check their stupid statements beforehand....continues to boggle the mind.

Thesaurus is your friend, helper....try it.


Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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It's more complicated than that. This is a pet peeve of many scientifically minded people (like myself) because it leads to a lot of big misunderstandings.

In scientific terms, a theory is not the same thing as a hypothesis. A theory is a model (or set of models) or framework that explains certain aspects of the natural world. It's based on many observations and incorporates facts, laws, predictions, and tested hypotheses that are generally accepted. Theories are more general and far reaching than hypotheses, and are well established and supported by the available evidence. A theory is a prestigious thing, not a mere guess. Think of relativity, for example.

A hypothesis is a specific testable prediction, an educated guess. It's much more narrow and specific (e.g.: "if I do x than y will happen" or "x is the cause of y"). A theory can incorporate tested hypotheses, and a hypothesis may be based on an existing theory, but a hypothesis is not in itself a theory.

However, it is true that in everyday vernacular, people often refer to hypotheses as theories. Although in science, there is no such thing as 100% certainty, in every day vernacular, a scientific theory would more closely resemble what you'd think of as a "fact". However, a "fact" in scientific terms is a single observation, a little nugget of data that is not in (much) dispute.

This leads to a lot of misunderstanding among the general public when it comes to science. For instance, when people hear "theory of evolution" they think that this means that that theory is a sort of unfounded guess as to what is going on in nature ("it's just a theory"), instead of what it really is; an extremely well supported set of models with mountains of evidence in its favor - a fact in any meaningful sense of the everyday meaning of that term.

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My hypothesis is that an IMDb message board is a poor forum to indulge linguistic pet peeves.

FTFY. }|:o)

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Seems like an awful lot of effort to keep a mask on a guy and keep in prison for 40 years instead of just killing him.

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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.

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The most likely theory is that he was the father of Louis XIV since Louis XIII was estranged from his wife and had no heir.

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that has to be BULL, how can the king end up in the mask from his own son?
I didnt think power was shifted to the heir until the king died.

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The theory is that another man, not the king, was the queen's lover and true father of her son. As the purported prince grew up, his resemblance to his real father became far too noticeable, so when he became king, he had his mother's former lover put into the mask so that nobody could see that the prisoner bore an uncanny likeness to the king.

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Cardinal Mazarin (Richelieu's successor) has been alleged to be the true father.

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Yes I saw the movie. I am referring to an actual theory of the bastardy of Louis XIV.

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another theory is that the king could not have children so the king had a relative of his sleep with the queen in secrete and he was that father

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Also, his mask wasn't really iron. It was velvet I think.

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