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Great Movie ... but the ending could have been harder

posted 18 years ago by djoseph626
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This is a great movie, but I felt a little let down by there reaction to the realisation of the Mimbari when they discovered Valen in their midst.

I fell that in the last five minutes of the movie, when Coplann announced the discovery to Delenn, if he had tears running down his face and said "What have we done!" as a sign of remorse, this would have been harder hitting.

Also when Delenn, tried the Triullium on Sinclair and discovered he had the soul of Valen, had she been crying when she lowered her hood, the guilt would have qualified her later sacrifice of making herself human

The decision of the Mimbari to surrender, rather than simply leaving quietly without explanation would have hit home more.

[–] atavus79 18 years ago

The vorlons told dukat that when the shadows return the mimbari will need alies to fight them, one of them is the humans because they creat communitys where ever they go and this would help forge the other races togeather.

And get a deep space base of operations for the comming war.

surrender was the only way to get to know the humans and work with them.

[–] rohonnag 18 years ago

they thought it was valen's sould reborn, not valen himself, valen was a mimbari not of mimbar, they didnt know he was a human!

the only plot stinker is, valen could have said, STOP! dont ATTACK HUMAN, if you ever come across them, but that would have spoilt the events to transpire,
the vorlons KNEW EVERYTHING, each minute detail, so they didnt try to stop the mimbari from killing humans, they knew if the mimbaris never attacked., babylon would not have been built, so they let it go on,

shows how you have to make hard choices if you already know your destiny.

This is YOUR LIFE and it is ending one minute at a time!

[–] UETF-agent 17 years ago

If Valen had prevented the war, Babylon stations wouldn't have been built in the first place.

[–] Wakener_One 17 years ago

Yeah . . . the chaos of the war, resulting in the human race being spurred to build the Babylon stations, resulting in growth and improvement of all civilized species.

Now that I think about it, it's a wonder that the Vorlons ever signed on at all. Everything I said above is exactly how the Shadows function. But I guess that the Vorlons had to sign on because they KNEW that they signed on, because two of them must have turned up mysteriously 1000 years in the past. But that doesn't mean the Vorlons had to like it. Or the Babylon Project. Or Sinclair--which might explain the hostility the Vorlons overall (though not Kosh Neranek) had towards him, especially in The Gathering. His exploits and prophecies stood up to declare that the Shadows, in their own way, had just as much of a point as the Vorlons about what makes people grow.

[–] darrell4562000 17 years ago

Babylon5; the lost tales starts production in 2007.

[–] savagesteve13 16 years ago

Ah, there's the rub. Its all explained in the series!

And the ending is rather unusual, but if you know the series you know that the movie ends right just before an event occurs that is absolutely mind-boggling.

[–] dregj 10 years ago

i kind of assumed the minbari were incorrect in their assumption that the triluminary detected minbari souls
it was actually keyed to react to sinclair's DNA
and therefore the other humans who had a similar genome
and the millions of minbari that were children of valen
that how deelen was able to use it in the first place