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A beautifully made but completely pointless and depressing film


I feel like I'm the only person who didn't enjoy The Green Mile.

It isn't that it's a bad film, far from it. But really, what is the point of this film?

A good man meets a magical person who changes his life, but not for the better... it leaves a good man feeling guilty, alone and tortured by watching his loves ones die as he lives on... It's such a downbeat, emotionally hollow story.

At least The Shawshank Redemption had a message of hope and triumph and the strength of the human spirit. The Green Mile just feels like an unhappy, angry man bemoaning the meaninglessness of life.

And yes, I know The Green Mile is supposed to be a parable about Jesus Christ, but even that is usually told as an uplifting story of sacrifice. What does John Coffey die for? Nothing at all. He doesn't save anyone, he doesn't change anyone's life for the better or anything. He just makes a few people aware of the existence of magic and God and then he dies. Pointless.

I feel bad for Frank Darabont and everyone involved. They obviously put so much work into the film, but it was all for naught.

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You kind of have a point there. What was the use of making Paul live to be over 100 if he wasn't going to stay young and healthy, and have all his friends and his wife kick the bucket before he did, and pretty much have nothing to look forward to anymore?

I often forget about the outer narration of the story, since the majority of it focuses on the inner narrative about the younger Paul Edgecomb and his days at Cold Mountain. That's the one part about John Coffey that didn't make much sense. How was it supposed to be a good thing for John to do that to him?

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It's like The Green Mile wants to punish you for getting emotionally involved with the story of these characters. Really, it just seems to say "life sucks, then you die."

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Funny, I actually thought that Shawshank was pointless and depressing. Prison setting (rarely anything outside of that), disturbing suicide scene, rape scene, cruel warden. The happy ending didn't compensate how dreary it was. At least this film had a intriguing story line (fantasy elements and a "twist").

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Depressing, sure, but it had a point.

Before he comes to Shawshank, Andy Dufresne is a really cold, measured kind of person. He has to come to prison to learn to appreciate the good life that he had and what it would mean to have a good life again.

Same with Red. before he meets Andy, he's a bitter, cynical person but his friendship with Andy reminds him that he's not dead yet and that he needs to enjoy life instead of trying to understand it.

In The Green Mile, John Coffey comes into Paul Edgecomb's life for no other reason than to die and leave Paul alone and waiting a long time for death.

The Shawshank Redemption may have been depressing, but at least it had a hopeful message. The Green Mile is just nihilistic and empty.

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A kind, harmless man with miraculous healing powers is executed for a crime he didn't commit. Twin young girls are raped and murdered. A likable prisoner is burned alive in the electric chair. The main character is left with unnaturally long life and wishing for death.

I'd say that's rather depressing.

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Agreed.

I should have known better than to click on a thread with such a ridiculous title.

I want my time back.

It's all a deep end.

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I feel bad for SkepticalBaby and everyone around him, he's put so much work into his post but it was all for naught.

It's all a deep end.

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Look, sunshine, nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to read my post.

If you have something worthwhile to add to the discussion, fine, but if not, go somewhere else.

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"Sunshine". Give over, lil'guy, you're not my Dad, sonny.

It's all a deep end.

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xD "You're not my dad, sonny"

It's obvious how much you need a dad, if you have nothing better to do than troll IMDb threads.

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How do you? Someone may have done exactly that!

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The tagline for this movie is "Paul Edgecomb didn't believe in Miracles, until the day he met one".

I find this to be the ultimate premise for the movie. yes it's set during the depression and lots of bad stuff happens in this movie, but for a man who has been working on death row for a long time who saw the worst of humanity, saw something good and amazing in the most unexpected place. This movie is about miracles, the super natural and the possibilities, it's about the goodness and innocence of people and about responsibility of owning such a gift.

John Coffey's life was quite a sad one and in the book they actually try to get John Coffey off the charge of Murder.

I find this movie quite sad, but also uplifting. That even though there is so much cruelness and bad things happening in this world, amazing things can still happen.

This is what I got from the film.

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If the film had ended on a happier note, I would agree, but what's the point of encountering something good and amazing if it's to be killed?

Paul's life isn't improved or anything by John Coffey's arrival. If anything, his life is ruined. I don't see anything amazing about Coffey's effect on Paul's life.

And where is there goodness and innocence? Except for Paul and a handful of other characters, a lot of them are deplorable creatures. And nobody is innocent at all.

Now, I can respect a spiritual story that shows the darker side of a spiritual experience. It isn't often that you see a story where someone experiences something fantastic and is changed more for the worse than for the better. But there's a reason we don't see those stories often. Because they're unpleasant and hollow.

I don't see how The Green Mile can be uplifting.

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He did get rid of his urinary tract infection. It not burning when you pee is uplifting...


In seriousness, I agree with you for the most part. It was a beautiful movie, but it was so utterly depressing that I couldn't watch it a second time.

It came on TV once, and I was going to watch it, but then I started remembering how terribly sad it was, felt upset (because I relate to John Coffey, like when he said why he wanted to be executed) and left the room. I did watch the beginning, because I couldn't remember how it started. I probably left somewhere around him saying that he was scared of the dark and sleeping in a new place. Watching him get hit for presumably killing the girls was hard to watch. A lot of it was hard to watch. It was very well made. Just terribly bleak.

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what's the point of encountering something good and amazing if it's to be killed?


What's good never lasts.

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I'm sorry but i don't think that the sadness of a film could make it pointless . Yes i agree with you , there is such pain in this movie , but for me it is full of ideas and meanings . First , this film is a way to militate against the death penalty that was so used in many countries at 90s . So the goal of showing all those "good" prisonners ( whom we are so attached during the movie ) dying on this chair with such an awful way , is to prove that the system is wrong : People don't deserve to be killed no matter what they have done , there is always this moment when we regret all the bad things we made and prison is good-enough to make a human feel this regret . Now let's talk about the aim of including John coffee in this movie , wich is the answer of this question : " what will happen if we could feel all this pain and this hate that exist between people in our world " and according to our coffee , we will not be able to live anymore , there is a scene when Paul ( tom hanks) wants to give coffe another chance even if he will risk to lose his job . But guess what , john prefer the death because he cant handle all this pain he receive from the world . So this role wasnt just about making people aware about magic , god or whatever. After I finished watching this movie , there was one and only question inside my head : " why John cofee made Paul live all this longtime " and i also can find 2 possible answers for that . The first one is like a punishment to Paul for all the innocent people whom he command their executions , but it seems not credible since our john all he does was helping people not punish them . So , that made me search for this second answer : i think that he find Paul the right person to take care of the mouse and as we can see at the end , the mouse live peacefuly in his own "Mouseville". Finally , i hope that my respond will be useful for you and i'm sorry for my bad english haha .

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The death penalty is a subjective thing. Personally, I think there are a lot of people who deserve to die and I think the death penalty, while useless, is a necessity.

I just don't see any use in the story. Guy meets guy, guy changes guy's life for the worse, the end. What was the purpose? In showing us that life sucks?

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The purpose of showing us that life sucks is simply to invite us to change our attitudes and feelings towards each others in order to make this life better . Because the quality of life depends on our acts . And regarding the death penalty , stephen king was always against it , and personnaly i think god only can take what he gave .

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Boy, if only that were true...

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Wich part ?

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That only God can take what he gave. Try pointing a gun at someone's head and squeezing the trigger, you'll wish if only that were true, too.

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Not all movies end with a happy ending. Sometimes the Hero doesn't win. John did effect many people during that short time. He was able to not only heal people, but gave comfort and hope to others. There was more people that were affected by John's gifts than Tom Hank's character. Those people, while sad at his death will have that positive change.

Truly bad guys were punished because of him, and good people were given a second chance, or perhaps just hope for the future. It is sad to lose John at the end, but they still have the gift of his kindness.

Even though Tom Hank's character has to live longer than any of his loved ones, doesn't mean he had a miserable life.

I also think the long life might also be part of the Jesus Metaphor. Isn't part of the mythology that the Roman that finally killed Jesus was cursed with immortality?

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I'm not a huge fan of The Green Mile, I like it but it's not one I want to watch over and over. The point to me was about good and evil in the world. The duality of man and the direction some choose to go.

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