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How did a movie so great in every way get beat in the Oscars by garbage


American Beauty... one of the worst and boringest movies ive ever seen. I wouldnt have suggested it to my worst enemy (unless it killed them)

But yet between a great movie and a movie that put B in bad they picked the worst.

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I guess you are entitled to your opinion, but I think American Beauty is one of the most perfect films I've ever seen. Conrad Halls Cinematography is a times amazing. Kevin Spacey's change from spineless wimp, to a confident man is fully deserving of his best actor oscar, The score, the constant metaphors. Its a masterpiece.... in MY opinion.

I Sympathise with Lars Von Trier.

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Yep, I much preferred American Beauty (not that I disliked the Green Mile at all). Based on the Rotten Tomatoes score, more critics liked American Beauty too, not so hard to believe the Academy also preferred it.

Regardless of opinions though, the OP is simply wrong in saying American Beauty is a bad film. It isn't. If he didn't enjoy it, fine, but it's still an excellent film.

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American Beauty is the kind of movie you have to watch multiple times, and each time, as you grow older, you appreciate it more and more.

The first time I saw it I thought it was awful. Then, about 10 years later, I watched it again for whatever reason, and actually liked it.

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That's funny you say that, cause I appreciate it less and less over the years. Still an excellent film. I just don't really like any of the characters. Much more complex story though.

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Agreed. I don't think American Beauty has held up very well. It comes across as a movie that isn't as clever as it wants to be. Possibly it seemed more poignant to a younger me,but it now seems a bit trite.

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I do not understand why you have to say one movie is bad in order to like another movie.

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I like both films tbh. I would say MCD should've won an Oscar instead of the "gimme' they gave instead to Michael Caine...idk *shrugs*

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I've seen American Beauty twice and I have to agree. I don't feel as strongly about it, but I don't like it. There's no way it should have beaten TGM.

American Beauty was more of an Oscar type movie though, so it was always gonna win.

"Maybe there is a beast... Maybe it's only us."

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Incorrect, American Beauty was unconventional and broke down the barriers for dark comedies with the Academy. Green Mile was the far more safe, prototypical Oscar-bait film with its noble white saviour themes.

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Exactly who in the movie is a "white saviour"?


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My favorite movie of all time is The Green Mile, but I know that American Beauty clearly deserves the 1999 Oscar.

You don't know a thing about movies, if you say that American Beauty is a bad movie.

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...thats...what...you...think. ;-)


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American Beauty is one of the most pretentious, ham-fisted, self-important, meaningless movie i have every seen. The Green Mile had heart. Just like Shawshank Redemption (which is vastly better than American Beauty) was about Hope and Resonance of the Human Spirit. American Beauty was about a 50 Something Pedophile, an Air Head Wife, Brain Dead Teenagers and a Homophobic Neighbor and Stupid Scene with a Plastic Bag. It's one of those movies that any meaning comes clearly from the viewer's own imagination and not from what is actually on the screen. Frankly all the other Oscar nominated movie that year were vastly better. Not to mention if you look at anyone list of worst Oscar winners. American Beauty is on almost every one of them.

http://movies.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/worst-best-picture-winners.htm

Not to mention that the green mile is only the second in a poll of movie that should have won the Oscar.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/shawshank-r edemption-voted-best-oscars-alsoran-8487214.html

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I could not possibly agree with the OP more. This is a GREAT MOVIE. Where as American Beauty is trying so hard to be a great movie that it just comes of as silly and pretentious. Like the guy is having a mid life crisis so he's sees the beauty in life. That's been done. But the Green Mile, there was really nothing like it.

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