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SPOILER ALERT!!!! Is this an occult ceremony?

posted 6 years ago by sneezer (166)
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SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The scene, at the mansion. It seems very sinister, very dark. The masks, the people, the way they were dressed. Is it an occult ritual going on?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

you can see it that way.

[–] TandyMan (10364) 6 years ago

Yup. Goes on all the time. This is what rich elites do. They're bored with life. The also traffic in human flesh and have slave harems for torture and pleasure as well. Every scary thing you ever learned about the Romans is happening right now.

[–] einstein (2292) 6 years ago

yes look up the rothschild occult party

[–] AP (5258) 6 years ago

This movie is nearly 20 years old and the cult scenes are perhaps the most famous aspect of the movie, I'm not sure spoiler tags are needed.

That said, yes, the ceremony seems to be a cult ritual of some sort. What the cult wants or what it represents is up to interpretation.

[–] christomacin (4529) 5 years ago

It was no Kiwanis Club meeting, that I can tell you for certain.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8291) 5 years ago

This is something I was left with questions about. Are they just a bunch of rich people who like to have sex and play dress up or are they actually an occult religious group who engage in occult practices?

We are never given an answer.

Those scenes did remind me of the group scenes in The Ninth Gate though.

[–] christomacin (4529) 5 years ago

This is something I was left with questions about. Are they just a bunch of rich people who like to have sex and play dress up or are they actually an occult religious group who engage in occult practices?

We are never given an answer.

This ambiguity is at the heart of the film's meaning, which is why I find it absurd that people believe there is "'missing' footage" showing actual human sacrifice and pedophile sex going on at the mansion. Actually, both are suggested when the woman ends up dead and the scene with Mr. Millich's daughter and the two Japanese men in the costume shop. However, this film deals in ambiguities and subtleties. It is not the over the top thriller people wanted it to be. The later scenes in Ziegler's billiards room and the final one in the toy store make no sense if the exact nature of the cult and how far the actually go is spelled out for the viewer. Bill and Alice wouldn't be casually shopping for toys and leaving their daughter to run around unattended. Having said that, there IS a metaphorical meaning behind the Harford's daughter that runs throughout the film right up to the final toy shop scene. Yes, Kubrick is trying to tell us something, but the melodramatic "kidnapping" theory is again a lurid and sensationalist reading. But that's a subject for another thread. This one, as a matter of fact:
https://moviechat.org/tt0120663/Eyes-Wide-Shut/58c7750993cef4080d7b3fb4/Bills-daughter-is-the-key-to-this-movie

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8291) 5 years ago

Yeah, that thread you linked to looks like pure nonsense to me.

"Bill to save his wealth, marriage and status literally sells his daughter to the powerful elite."

I don't believe there is any evidence at all for that in the movie and it sounds like someone with a demented mind reading into the film what they want to see.

[–] christomacin (4529) 5 years ago

I agree. However, if you go through the whole thread some very interesting rebuttals and counter-theories presented.

[–] AP (5258) 5 years ago

Yeah, conspiracy theorists really gravitate toward Kubrick films and always try to gleam strange meanings behind them for some reason.

[–] christomacin (4529) 5 years ago

Kubrick did put a lot of allegorical and political stuff in his films and a lot of people mistake that for evidence of conspiracy theories.