Im just wondering, it might be a stupid question though..lol
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thats really scary, I mean I would never do that..lol...but like to think to go to jail for that long for doing that...its really crazy...
shareNot a stupid question:
In Thailand (where Brokedown Palace is set) the maximum penalty for smuggling drugs is actually Death. Much worse than 33 years. This is true in several countries in the region including Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam and Thailand. In Singapore, you get mandatory death sentence for carrying any more than an half an ounce of heroin.
A similar earlier film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096540/ (Bangkok Hilton) details a similar plotline, except the girl in question is facing the death penalty. Or you can watch http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077928/ (Midnight Express) for a similar situation set in Turkey.
A lot of the world (courtesy of our "War on Drugs") has set severe penalties for attempted smuggling. And far too often, it catches the little fish in terrible sentences while the big fish view them as a simple 'cost of doing business'
Wow
shareNo, it's not a stupid question, but mind you, one time in court in Richmond, British Columbia, I saw a guy get sent away for 9 years for drugs. 33 years? I don't know, and pls G-d, I don't ever want to know.
shareSome countries have laws and they really do enforce those laws. It's only in America that one can break the laws and get away with it.
shareIf Americans taught thier kids to respect laws and authority these things wouldn't happen. We travel alot in our family and my parents have always taught us to respect not only laws in our country but the laws and customs of other countries.
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Innocent girls that lie to their parents about where they are going. Then going to a third world country known for thier dealings with sex slavery, thier false accusations of drug charges against Europeans and Americans. Yea they are real innocent...lol.
Before we travel to any country we learn about the government, the laws, the customs and we never ever ever go off with strange men or even make such plans with strange men.
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I'm not justifying anything.
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I hate drugs anyway.But there is an actual country
I hear where you can get away with everything including
murder,I'll never go there where ever that place is.
Innocent girls that lie to their parents about where they are going. Then going to a third world country known for thier dealings with sex slavery, thier false accusations of drug charges against Europeans and Americans. Yea they are real innocent...lol.
Before we travel to any country we learn about the government, the laws, the customs and we never ever ever go off with strange men or even make such plans with strange men.
we were watching it in class.
after the guy was like "You're lucky they didn't make it life in prison"
(or something along those lines)
Dane's character asked "How many years?"
"33 years"
we broke out laughing, cause 33 years.
that's almost your whole life already
Joe-Gregory Garbowsky is a fat virgin
Nick-Still half-true
''id say the judicial system are not corrupted as potrayed, remember this movie are exaggerating at some points to make it more dramatic according to Hollywood standards.''
dunno bout thaT,ive been to thailand.They are hypocrites,they have big drugs laws yet if a cop catches you with a drug a bribe will ghet him off your back.Besides that there are public bars where you can openly buy marijuana and mushrooms so obviously the cops are been paid off as hush money in many cases,from that and other cases i seen there of criminal activity it almost appears that if you have hush money you can get away with alot in Thailand so no i don't think the film is as far fetched as you'd want to believe.Not only that but there are shops that in bangkok that sell counterfit goods that dont work and not a thing is done so again its hush money i would say that no action is been taken.I'm saying this as i purchased 4 apple ipods in the mbk shopping centre in bangkok and they were all basically rubbish that would'nt work.
your parents raised you right!
sharewhy not? heroin is a very bad drug. people should be shot for smuggling smack full stop.
shareI think that in general victimless crimes (if you are not DIRECTLY related to hurting someone) should not be so harsh. I understand like...even freaking 5 years, but 33 is way too much.
Only the shell, the perishable passes away. The spirit is without end. Eternal. Deathless.
dealing drugs is like murdering someone, only you're doing it slowly. drug crimes are why our prisons are so crowded. if it was the death penalty, maybe people wouldn't do it.
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No, stupid drug laws regarding marijuana are why our prisons are so crowded. The majority of people in prison for drugs have to do with marijuana and little else. That's a problem.
shareYou know they wouldn't have a problem if they legalize drugs, let everyone have what they want, no money to be made less violence. If people want to risk HIV, drug overdose and killing themselves more power to them. In the end the Gov. saves money on so many drug offenders in prison, then can keep real criminal like rapists and child molesters in prison where they belong!
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and it will never be legalized over here just because for the people involved in enforcing the laws, ie the police and the military, there is a lot of money to be made because of the illegalization of drugs. I am talking about the higher ups in particularly, but it trickles down to the lackeys also.
The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new. Samuel Beckett
Smuggling drugs is not a "victimless crime" Apparently you've never been effected by someone's drug use. Whether directly or indirectly related to hurting someone, they are still part of the problem and they should be dealt with accordingly. 33 years isn't long enough in my opinion.
If you interrupt me again, I'll strangle you.
No, it is a victimless crime. It's not like drugs aren't produced domestically. Simply making an action to transport something does not a victim make, nor does its sale, or its usage. Most of what I see negative coming from drug sales/trafficking is that the money usually goes to fund other, much worse crimes.
Someone said it was only America where drug laws weren't enforced very well, which is just untrue. Much of Europe is that way, along with North America, outside of the U.S., even. There are still pretty harsh laws on the books, though, and you're never really all that secure, unless it's something like marijuana, and that's still dependent on quantity usually. The vast majority of the West has made that offense pretty light, or legalized it.
That said, I don't think making something illegal and making the maximum the death penalty is a good deterant for drugs. Singapore does that... it's a good country, but people inhale their own feces and urine to get a high since everything else is illegal there. Not much of an improvement over emphasis on rehabilitation and education.
As I said to the other poster, obviously you've never been effected by someone's drug use or you would not say it is a victimless crime. Whether directly or indirectly, trafficking or selling it, they are still part of the problem. If John smuggles it into the country and sells it to Jane and Jane convinces her sister that it's crack when it's actually heroin, that would make Jane's sister a victim now wouldn't it? Or say, Jane's been clean all her life and gets involved with John's best friend who laces her booze with heroin, that would make Jane a victim now wouldn't it? Say Jane's boyfriend gets her really stoned and she's passed out and he shoots her up with heroin and it kills her... what does that make her and her family? Victims. You might say she isn't a victim because she used marijuana but she's still a victim because she was "tricked or duped" into using a drug. I put that in quotes because that's part of the meaning of the word victim.
Just because someone makes the decision to use any kind of drug doesn't mean they can't be a victim.
What about the children that get hooked on drugs? Children are innocent and are naturally trusting of most adults. You're basically saying that they aren't a victim, but they are. They are the victim of the adult who gave it to them, who purchased it from the dealer, who purchased it from the drug trafficker, so please tell me how someone smuggling drugs isn't INDIRECTLY responsible for that?
If you interrupt me again, I'll strangle you.
There's an awful lot of "ifs" in those statements. You could draw similar conclusions from just about anything. If nobody drove cars, nobody would die in traffic accidents. What if someone was addicted to alcohol? What if a child drank furniture cleaner because he was told it was kool-aid?
Theoretically, anyone can be a "victim" if something he doesn't intend to happen to himself, happens. But it's stretching a point. Criminalization is what contributes to the gang violence, the ridiculous prison sentences, etc. Criminalization is more dangerous to society as a whole and creates far more "victims" than a grown woman deciding she wants to snort coke in her bathroom on her own time, with her own money, up her own nose, hurting no one but herself. And if you say "what if she has kids?" Then she shouldn't shirk her responsibility to those kids, period.
No, someone should not do 33 years for smuggling. Those are the laws then the laws should be changed. But anyone who knows anything about organized crime, especially in Asia, but in America and Europe too, there's too much dirty money in drugs to ever let it become legal. It has nothing to do with morality, despite what the "war on drugs" people would have you believe.
Street drugs are not comparable to cars, which are produced with solely a benign or beneficial purpose AND which cause harm rarely / by mistake. By contrast, street drugs have no beneficial purpose, and their use causes harm -- and death -- in a disproportionately high percentage of instances.
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."
Drug-trafficking is NOT a victimless crime. Even if you -- irrationally -- choose to discount the suffering of every drug user, and of every friend/relative who cares about that user, the fact remains that an enormous number of murders are caused directly by traffickers' fights for dominance in this very profitable field.
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."