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A question for truckers and mechanics


WHY is it that big truck engines, for rigs, seem to have such little Horsepower?? An average one is about 400 HP. (The one in the rig in this movie is 425HP...pretty good for truck engines evidently..)Yet--they tend to be MUCH larger than car engines of MORE horsepower. Many times--12+ liters.
Now, some have told me, "it is a different type of "horsepower measurement" they use. The big rig engines can produce this power for a LONG time, whereas a corvette with more HP can do so only for a VERY short time, before things go "boom". Also--the big rigs have MUCH more "torque'--giving them the ability to pull many tons." Now-is this true?

And--if the big engines have in excess of 1000ft/lbs of torque--why not rate the horsepower higher??

I am still confused by the "HP vs Torque" argument. I know that "torque is a pulling or turning force, and HP is a MEASUREMENT of the WORK done by that force. But..if one is pulling 30 tons at 65MPH---it would SEEM TO ME--they are ALSO producing a LOT of horsepower.

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ok, a corvette with 400 bhp is going to be producing it at something like 5000 rpm and getting pretty poor gas mileage. It has tall gearing to enable it to achieve high speeds and only has to shift 1.5 tons of car.
Big diesels in trucks tend to be around 12-15 litres, and whilst "only" producing 425 bhp for example, they will do it at 12-1300 RPM, as you say for long periods of time. its all to do with operating economy. a 14 litre truck engine pulling 30 tons could still potentially get 8+ mpg and last a million miles, whereas if you drive your corvette using every one of its available BHP all the time its not going to last long and will drink gas like crazy. horses for courses. The bhp vs torque is a trade off to get the most power whilst retaining economy and longevity- basically the smallest amount to do the job.
Once you have reached a HP rating whereby the truck can pull a full load up a steep hill without having to downshift excessively and still return good MPG there is no point going any higher. It will never be a performance machine due to the tiny power band, low gearing and sheer number of gears.(anywhere between 8 and 18 these days). Big diesels are sloggers, with large capacities to make them unstressed to last the distnace.

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interesting thank you

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Because they don't need stupendous amounts of horsepower to move down the road. It's the torque that does it. Your average semi puts down roughly 1400 to nearly 2000 foot pounds of torque.

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