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Why do Neo-Nazis/alt-tight love this movie?


Are they really stupid enough to not realize that this movie is criticizing scum like them? It looks that way.

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Well they probably think that Derek is a traitor and celebrate that the 'movement' continued despite him. I really don't think many of them have the ability to broaden their perception beyond that.

We have to show the world that not all of us are like him: Henning von Tresckow.

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Lots of types of people like the movie, dumbass. Take your political postings off this forum.

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This post took 2 years in the making but you did bring the hammer down on him, HARD!!

It was worth the wait.

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Good point, keep posting, ignore trolls

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Did you track down and poll a bunch of actual Nazis to see if they liked the movie? I really don't think so. Everyone who isn't a far left extremist is labeled a Nazi these days by nut jobs like you. I would like to see your source.

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Agreed.

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maybe theDailywire can do a poll on youtube?????

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My problem with this film is that it tends to present the protagonist as far more intelligent and articulate than the average white supremacist.

Conversely, his best friend and fellow Nazi, the fat guy, is presented as the biggest idiot on the planet.

In reality, I think most of these people are somewhere in the middle. They're certainly nowhere near as self-aware and thoughtful as Derek (if they were, it's doubtful that they would ever have been attracted to white supremacy to begin with), but like any real human being, even Trump, they're not going to be a two-dimensional moron.

Perhaps Nazis like the film because Derek is presented as this almost superhuman and glorified figure, who is smart, highly literate, wise, reasonably good-looking, and single-handedly outplays a whole team of black men at basketball (*eyeroll* yeah, right...) Sure, he does, eventually, change, but for a large portion of the film he's like a Nazi-superman.

Also, too many of the scenes of Nazi violence, like the attack on the Korean supermarket, are presented in picture-pretty black-and-white slow motion rather than anything uglier and nastier, and thus befitting the characters' vile nature.

For a far more credible and nuanced film about white supremacists, that presents these people as neither heroes/anti-heroes, nor completely braindead ciphers, I'd recommend Daniel Radcliffe's recent Imperium. The white supremacists in that film are not presented as remotely appealing, but nor are they presented as two-dimensional and unbelievable monsters. Instead, they're depicted as relatively mundane thugs or family men and women, and we get a sense of why they harbour such messed-up and stupid ideas, without the film remotely making sense of their twisted logic.

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The OP is the really stupid one. The movie is a lefty fantasy about their favorite boogey-man.

A movie about reformed Commies would be more interesting. There are dozens who write about it: Ron Radosh, David Horowitz, ...

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I'd like top make a joke and say I liked him MORE before he became around to a more sane and compassionate reality, but that's not the point of the movie.
He's a prick at the beginning of the film and becomes a better person after. If Nazis want to glorify it, great! It negates their stance, so have at it.

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To be honest, while it doesn't excuse the ideology, this movie shows some understanding for white nationalism and alt-right thinking. It is not like Mississippi Burning that portrays them as evil wife-beating savages, while black people and civil rights activists are innocent. Here, we see blacks taking over the neighbourhood and bullying the white youth. Why is Sweeney never shown dealing with that in the movie?

It also provides some arguments of the white nationalist kind that come off as rational and are rarely addressed with factual rebuttals (except for Murray at the dinner table scene), but only with an emotional response in the end. Yes, Derek befriends a decent black guy in prison and it goes to show that we should not judge their character by the colour of their skin, but none of the other problems are shown to go away.

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