Old guy at the end. - Vegas Vacation (1997) Discussion

[–] WestSideShark 19 years ago

I don't know for sure, but my opinion is that the old guy did not actually die at the end. Then again, I don't know why a pair of professional paramedics would play along with a hoax like that. Unless the casino stages these scenarios on purpose with the intent to reward certain patrons discretely.

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[–] cobram-1 19 years ago

Did these people watch the same movie? I'll go one further and say that YES, he's 100% dead, just watch the scene, people.

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[–] beechy3 17 years ago

See, I thought he did die, because the paramedics obviously pronounced him dead. But the wink kind of threw me off, since he looked dead but then he randomly winked with all this enthusiasm.

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[–] aHastingz 13 years ago

its a comedy movie you idiot.

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[–] toking65000 12 years ago

OMG I'm so glad REAL LIFE convos are not like this, I mean calling someone an IDIOT just for asking a question. Didn't your mama teach you any manners?

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[–] wastedyuthe 10 years ago

The wink threw me off too. As soon as he winked at Clark I thought "awwww he's pretending he's dead in order to give his winnings completely to the Griswolds". But then the paramedics came along and pronounced him dead- I was like "huh? So he really IS dead? So why the wink???"

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[–] goofyball 17 years ago

the "old guy" at the end is Sid Ceasar... a respectful FYI: he's one of the all time great comedians. i understand younger people might not know him but he's considered a comedic icon. was just funny to read someone write old man and not use sid ceasar's name.

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[–] acdc363 11 years ago

As young as I am I will always love him in Grease as the coach. He was hilarious!

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[–] markspe 9 years ago

Thank You for showing class giving respect to the memory of the Late Great Sid Ceasar!:)

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[–] jabramson2000 14 years ago

I was actually in the scene you are talking about. I was in the Keno Department at the MGM when the movie was filmed. I am the last person running from behind the Keno counter out to the paramedics.
I have watched the movie dozens of times, and I really believe that he died.
I hated the movie when it first came out, but like many others I have grown to love it over time. It was a great experience watching it being filmed for two days in our department. My Keno manager Roxy was the caller for the big win. There were a few really distinct memories for me about the film. The producer Jerry Weintraub was always on the phone, and incessantly smoking a huge cigar. The cast and crew were all very nice to us except for Chevy Chase. He was either whining about something or just plain being a jerk. Beverly D'Angelo and Sid Caesar made up for him by being gracious and very patient.
Lastly, I remember stopping Marisol Nichols from playing the real slot machines in-between takes. She was really young at the time, (14) and took a shot at playing a dollar machine away from the roped off set. Great memories from 1996.

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[–] cobram-1 14 years ago

Thanks for sharing that on here. There was also another extra who chimed in here too, she was in the dinner scene with Clark/Eddie and also gave some great back ground information.
I like Cheby in this film, and he does have his moments, but he's a total jackass in person, anyone and everyone he's ever worked with seems to attest to that, he almost got his arse kicked while filming "Funny Money", he was insulting an extra whom he thought didn't speak English, but she did.

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[–] goofyball 14 years ago

actually i heard the total opposite from interviews with people he worked with. also saw all the problems he went through and quit actig for a while to be with his family

seems like he's back on track. maybe he had some bad moments due to drugs and fame

hopefully he's cool now

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[–] yonhope 14 years ago

I worked with Chevy 4 times in different movies when I was an extra. I worked Vacation, Vacation 2 and Deal of the Century as an extra and I spent 17 days on Under the Rainbow as a stand in for Peter Isaacsen and Pat McCormick and I did one photo double for Chevy. That was a scene from the neck down in a mirror as an elevator door opens. He was always pleasant to me. He did have a tendency to try to be funny which some people might have not found to be funny. Pat McCormick would say very funny things easily and Chevy would try to top him. I liked him. He was very high energy and usually smiling.

I worked with Sid Caesar in Munster's Revenge. Sid was a brilliant comic. Most people would not remember his two great TV shows, Your Show of Shows (with Imogene Coca who appeared in the first Vacation movie as the dead body in the rocking chair on the roof of Clark's car). Sid and Imogene together were great when they were young. Sid also had The Sid Ceasar Hour. He and Carl Reiner and Howard Morris and Nanette Fabray were very funny doing skits that hopefully will find their way to YouTube.

Sid's best available scenes are in the movie Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

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[–] Cobram 13 years ago

I didn't connect the dots until I read your post. Imogene Coca dies in the first one, and Sid Caesar dies in this one. Coincidence? Maybe not.

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[–] bcmoney 14 years ago

Hate to point out the obvious but according to her bio Marisol Nichols was born in 1973, thus she was 24 not 14 when filming Vegas Vacation in 1997...

Ethan Embry, however, actually was underage at 19

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[–] Cobram 13 years ago

There is NO WAY Marisol is 14 years old in this film! It would have been pretty lecherous to put a gyrating half naked 14 year old in go go cage. Thanks for setting that straight.

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[–] viper1vols 13 years ago

To jabramson200: Marisol Nichols was not really young at the time, not even close to 14. According to IMDB she was born in 1973.

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[–] ragreen259 12 years ago

I'll have to question the veracity of your entire comment based on the fact that you claim Marisol Nichols was 14 years old. get your glasses checked, that is NOT a 14 year old girl, it's a grown 24 year old woman, born in 1973.

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[–] rickb69 10 years ago

according to IMDB Marisol Nichols was born in 1973, so she would have been 22 or 23 (depending on what time of year this incident takes place) in 1996 and legally old enough to gamble.

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[–] subteacher8609 10 years ago

She was actually 24 at the time. I checked her IMDB page. She looked more mature than a 14 year-old, which is why I checked.

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[–] sschind 12 years ago

Yes, he dies.

If I have to read the book to help explain the movie that tells me the movie failed

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[–] conchord_phan 12 years ago

With Rusty winning four vehicles, I never understood why the scene was needed. Why do the Griswold's need the ticket? The father lost 20 thousand dollars; I believe that selling four vehicles would fix their problem.

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[–] blaque108 12 years ago

Exactly that is what I was thinking. I think Griswold ended up giving the money to his friends. I'm sure when they got home selling those cars or at least 2 maybe is what they did. I would if I was them

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[–] discostu2214 11 years ago

I think Rusty didn't know at the time that he could still claim all 4 cars, and so they needed the money to leave Vegas.

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[–] SouthernCross88au 11 years ago

The funny thing is that legally Rusty didn't have the right to the four cars since he was underage. In real life, a casino would make damn sure that they would get the cars back when it was revealed that Pappagiorgio was a fraud - especially since it was FOUR cars (a bit unreal). It was in fact Ellen and Clark that blew his cover in the end.

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[–] f-ascaso 11 years ago

The exact opposite would have happened. The Caninos involved would have let them keep the vehicles, and may have even given them a large cash bonus to sign a non disclosure agreement and keep the whole incident quiet.

The penalties, fines, and legal repercussions of letting a minor gamble, setting him up with alcohol, a suite etc. mean the possibility of jail time for those involved with corruption of a minor and numerous other charges.

The onus is on the establishment (like a liquor store who accepts a fake ID) to make sure the person is legal, ignorance is no excuse.

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[–] rickb69 10 years ago

Did the cut out scenes for the television version? I went through this movie again and saw he only won 2 cars.

If a person with multiple personality s threatens to commit suicide, is that a hostage situation

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[–] virgiltx 11 years ago

He whispers energetically and alertly to Clark.
He winks right after "expiring".
The medics' statements about him sound contrived, like it's all part of a staged event, maybe something the old guy himself originated and arranged their cooperation for.

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[–] jefgg 10 years ago

He was played by Sid Caesar. He is an actor and writer best known for the '50s television series "Your Show of Shows". I know him as Coach Calhoun in the movie "Grease". He is now 91 years old.

I just thought of something. The late Imogene Coca played Aunt Edna in the first Vacation movie. She co-starred with Sid Caesar on "Your Show Of Shows".

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[–] cestfromage 7 years ago

I'm glad someone else made the connection that the Vacation movies included two comic greats (Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca) who were a formidable team in their time.

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