Why is young Rose English but Old Rose American?
This is one of my favourite films ever but this is quite an obvious flaw Jim missed lol
Young Rose is American. The actress is English.
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I'm not really sure why it even matters or how it qualifies as a flaw?
It's not like young Rose had an English accent and old Rose didn't or vice versa. Plenty of British actors have played americans and americans have played british people...what's the big deal?
It qualifies as a flaw because people don't change nationality magically overnight.
Yes various actors are good at putting British & American accents on but they are doing it for a character portrayal. This particular character has two different nationality of accents in her story-line.
Accents are ingrained into us through our environment in childhood. Anyone over the age of 14 who has suddenly changed accent is faking it.
And as for the guy above, pretty obvious Rose & her mother are English in Titanic, hence why they're in Southampton at the start and Cal is there to take her to USA to get married. He also says a quote in the film implying that their English.
So...... your logic is that a British actor cannot play an American character, or vice-versa, even if they're "putting on" the accent?
Rose and her mother are American. Purportedly they are from Philadelphia.
Did you even watch the film? Rose and Ruth are from Philadelphia, hence Roses line "All of Philadelphia society will be there(wedding) and Cal is the son of a Pittsburgh steel tycoon. She says that she was "going BACK to America in chains". Also, there were actual English people in the vast and neither Rose or Ruth sound anything like them.They have a typical aristocratic Mid-Atlantic accent.
They have a typical aristocratic Mid-Atlantic accent.
I think this is what throws people off -- if they weren't paying attention to the dialogue, which indicates they were all Americans.
The "high class" tone comes across as British to some. Billy Zane's "Cal" sounded like a pompous, British ass to my ears.
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The "high class" tone comes across as British to some.
That is interesting. I've watched this movie quite a few times and they never sound British to me share
That is interesting. I've watched this movie quite a few times and they never sound British to me
Well, not so much Rose and Ruth.
But, Cal speaks with great affectation; sounds like he's putting on airs.
I can see how some might mistake him for British.
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I agree, to a extent and to people not familliar with the accent could indeed be mistaken for Brittish. Whats somewhat funny and ironic, Ruth had the least aristocratic affectation to her voice.
shareIt qualifies as a flaw because people don't change nationality magically overnight.
Yes various actors are good at putting British & American accents on but they are doing it for a character portrayal.
That's the whole point of an actor. They ACT. The audience is well aware that Kate Winslet is in fact British in real life, but that doesn't mean she isn't allowed to portray an American? I don't understand your logic. It's not always required for actors to be a certain nationality in movies. Who cares? Honestly?
Anyone over the age of 14 who has suddenly changed accent is faking it.
Why the random age? Also, it's very common for people to change accents when living in a certain place for a matter of time. For example, I had a good friend that lived in Lithuania all her life up until she was in Junior High. She moved to Mississippi and developed a Mississippi accent after living there for a few years. It can happen.
pretty obvious Rose & her mother are English in Titanic, hence why they're in Southampton at the start and Cal is there to take her to USA to get married.
Rose, her mother, and Cal were all from America. They were NOT British nor English. They were traveling from England to the USA. They were probably on vacation.
He also says a quote in the film implying that their English.
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Maybe I was wrong about the nationality of Ruth & Rose looking back although neither accent sounded particularly American in my opinion compared to Jack. Kate & Frances are both English in real life so I think I got confused. They're great actresses but I'm not sure what kind accents they were doing.
I could tell Cal was American, although with a aristocratic tinge and Spicer Lovejoy was English. Most of the staff on Titanic were talking in their normal accents so you could distinguish the lower class British accent.
Francis Fischer was merely born in England, but her parents were American. She doesn't have an English accent so her being born in England has no part in the way she speaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwms42nMh64
Rose and Ruth are NOT British. They're from Philadelphia. They're American.
shareKate Winslet sounded American for the most part, but there were moments where her Britishness would sneak it.
Regardless, seeing how the scenes with old Rose occur 84 YEARS later, I don't think it's completely unrealistic that her accent would change somewhat.
If Rose lived in Cedar Rapids (Iowa) for 70+ years, assuming she never moved after settling there, a change in accent would be pretty much inevitable.
shareDo you think if an american were to live in England for 70 + years, would they develop an English accent and not a fake one like Madonna.
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