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What would be your argument to Jasmine?


Having seen this movie several times over the past few years I'm struck by how solid Jasmine's decision to end her life appears.

I've found myself on both sides of the argument over the years, worked psych back in the seventies & eighties, even done a bit of crises counseling, but I'll be damned if I could mount an effective counter-argument to Jasmine's determination. She tells Arliss that he's encountered her in a particularly interesting & stimulating moment. Just trying to imagine what a grind it would be to deal with her illness day by day ... is it even fair to ask her not to kill herself under these circumstances?

Even if she agreed for the sake of building a relationship with you, what then? She stays until you inevitably are forced away & is left even worse off than before (it's worth noting that in spite of her despair, Jasmine isn't bitter, or even especially angry--at least not with anyone but herself).

Arliss's arguments don't even come close, but that may because such arguments don't exist--imagine, for example, if you were in Jasmine's predicament & someone started chirping at you how "suicide in a permanent answer to a temporary problem"!

Sometimes there isn't anything that can be said, & I do believe that's one, perhaps minor, theme of the movie.

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I would argue that the right medication might be already available.
She has just not found it yet.



'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives. Use it. Save a life.

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I just saw the film and she says something to the effect of "I'm fat, I'm an underachiever", she complains about her relationship with her father (and her family in general) and she seems very aware of exactly her 'problem', to put it that way, is.
I might be speaking from the point of view of an inexperienced young person, but her appearance and perceived mediocrity can be improved if she applies herself. I've certainly found that to be the case.

I certainly don't wish to make light of what a mess a chemical imbalance can create in a person's mind, but, putting that aside for a moment, the issues she's dealing with are something many people face and overcome.
I can appreciate that it is difficult to pick yourself up over and over again, after your relationships and treatments fail, but I've found what helps me is putting things in perspective.

It might sound cheesy, but I stop to consider the vastness of the universe and the unlikelihood of my being born and being lent a piece of consciousness for a few decades. Even if I'm feeling abandoned, friendless, cornered - I ponder this and I'll be damned if I ever consider taking my own life again.
On the other hand, I do have a romantic disposition and the argumentation that works on me may not work on somebody else.

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