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how isnt this woke according to conservatives??


-you have a female kick two physically stronger men into the mud

-you have a black shaven head female punch out a male

-you have a black female sky marshal replace a disgraced white male

it must suck not being able to enjoy this movie for conservatives

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You obviously don't understand why people complain about "wokeness" in cinema today. None of what you mention here is "woke."

-She was physically able to kick them into the mud because she was swinging from a rope, had momentum, and the dudes weren't paying attention.

-The black female squad leader was a tough chick, again though she surprised Ace with that punch. It was a hard punch but it, realistically, did not knock him out.

-As far as the sky marshal; the movie is set hundreds of years from now, it's totally reasonable that a black woman could hold such a position so far into the future.

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None of that necessarily constitutes “woke”, nice try dingleberry.

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The whole movie is a one big joke.

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Frankly, I find the idea of a bug that thinks appalling!

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None of your examples necessarily constitutes woke agenda. The fact there's strong black females in the movie, not make it woke. Your statement shows a lack of understanding about the culture phenomena called "woke".

What is WOKE? here few criteria, some or most of them should appear in the film:

1. Superficial dichotomy between black/female/non-white and white males.
2. Racial or gender tensions.
3. The emphasis is on the characters identity and not character traits.
4. Criticism of the United States/west.
5. The emphasis is on the ideological - less about the story.
6. Using academic terms taken from postmodernism, gender study, post-colonialization and so on.

I will add extreme emphasis on representation.
None of them appear in Starship Troopers.

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Also remember this was 1997 long before 'woke' even became really even a thought. Females were making strides though.

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The film lacks a WOKE atmosphere, which is unsurprising given that it wasn't in consciousness of the filmmakers at the time. Starship Trooper" unmistakably bears the mark of its 90s production. People need to learn a bit about postmodern theories of identity politics to understand exactly what is meant by the movie "woke." The theories on which the woke is based have not yet penetrated the west culture and Hollywood.

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Commie bastards sure love misinterpreting the sci fi they watch. This board is getting like the classic Star Trek boards. "Cuz Star TrAk wuz always woke, even though we hate Kirk's toxic masculinity and need episodes of TNG banned for being waycist."

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Can't people just enjoy a movie for God's sake?

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Not when the movie is stuffed with woke messaging, no.

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