Squeaky Clean London


Oh my what a squeaky clean London! And where are all the Londoners of Asian, West Indian, and African orign? This one is strictly for the Anglo-American crowd who live in Never Never Land.

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Not unlike Love, Actually, which incidentally I enjoyed immensely. Plenty of proper white Englishmen and one Portugese woman... from Portugal. No cockneys, no immigrants. In any case, I hope to see the real London very soon. God knows the American economy is *beep* especially my area in Detroit with the quickly dying Big 3, and if I'm lucky enough that a company in London would take me, even for *beep* pay, you'd best believe that I'll be on the next plane across the pond, and in all honesty, I'm aiming for it.

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There are quite a few non-caucasian actors in Love Actually, despite your comments. Chiwetel Ejiofor (Peter), Nina Sosanya (Annie) and Abdul Salis (Tony) appear to have escaped your notice, despite all having significant roles.

How do you know there were no Cockneys? You have no idea where the characters were born (which is what defines a Cockney) so can't make sweeping statements like that. You also have no idea whether the characters of non-white origin are first, second or third generation immigrants or not.

As a representation of upper middle-class London I'd say it was bang-on, actually.

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no cockneys? thats the whole point of london u beeepppppp!!!!

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It's a movie doorknob! How many characters were actually in it? did you want some token people in the background? There's something called casting, if the right people were reading for the right parts, they'd get it regardless of their color. Are you kidding me...?
Do yourself a favor, go to almost any movie starring Denzel Washington (The Pelican Brief) or Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop) and read which parts they received due to their readings and not due to their skin color. Wow! If you're so upset about how whitebread this movie is, you have choices:

a. don't watch it
b. don't use your money on movies like this
c. make your own movie with people who aren't whitebread
d. shut the h311 up
e. all of the above

Me personally, I wished you'd choose e.

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Disagree - some parts of london are clean and in some social circles it is all very white. There were only 3 main characters and 2 token friends -- so really your comment is irrelevant

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I totally agree with the main poster. In the parts of London where this film was filmed it would be impossible to not come across many of the minorities that has helped build and are as much part of London as any of the white folk.

It angered me in the film Notting Hill. Notting hill hosts the largest street festival in Europe which is the Nottinghill Carnival, the inhabitants of Nottinghill is or was majority West Indian.

The film was aired on a program called Britains embarrasing film moments. Where it came 1st. Many tourists from all over the world were shocked when they visited Notting hill. To make a film is not just the acting but the way researchers and directors pay attention to the small details inthe background.

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What is it like to only watch movies to see if there are the correct percentage of ethnic minorities involved? I've always been curious of that because I tend to just enjoy movies.



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My first remark at seeing the first subway/tube scene was wow! it sure is spotlessly clean! And I know it's not really like that :-)

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You can say the same thing about some films with New York and LA as the setting.

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My first remark at seeing the first subway/tube scene was wow! it sure is spotlessly clean! And I know it's not really like that :-)

I don't know that I'd agree with you there. I use the underground every day, and most of the trains and stations I use regularly are clean. You get discarded Metros fluttering about on the trains, but other than that I'd say this was a fairly accurate portrayal, at least of the parts of the underground that I use.

x-caitlin-x

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nah. you're just an aspirational whitey who sympathises with the characters and their professional and personal ambitions. You'd love it if you had their lifestyle.

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That's a good comment raf-33 - but just picture this: would it make sense making a film that was set in Los Angeles showing the cars driving on the left hand side of the road? I warch films to enjoy them, too - but there has to be certain factual accuracies where necessary.

Like the point mentioned before - visitors from around the world descending in Notting Hill, London were very surprised to see how inaccurate the film was regarding the real location

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Who cares ! Is it really that important ? No .

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Not everywhere in London is as multi-culti as some would like. The areas where the film was set - along the river in west London - are still pretty much 'white' areas (or at least 'White Commonwealth'). In places like Barnes you just don't see that many black/asian people, similarly areas like Highgate, Hampstead etc.

The film was about the kind of people who live in places like that, hence the lack of black or brown faces. There's no rule (though I am sure some would like there to be) that a film has to check boxes on the pantone chart for skin colour.

Don't forget also, the film was made in 1998. Since then we have had over a decade of unlimited immigration thanks to the Labour government, so London's ethnic makeup has changed quite a bit as well.

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Most of the film was clearly set in central London (the houses look like zone 1-2) though probably around the West End. This certainly isn't about people who live in Highgate. I've lived around Hammersmith and West Ken for nearly two years now and have regularly seen Asians and black people walking around town. I've also seen them in the nicer parts of West London whenever I've gone. Indeed, I myself am black and live in a building with people from a fairly diverse set of backgrounds.

The OP is right, the fact that you don't see all that many non-white faces in the background of the film is actually quite odd. One can forgive it because it's an old film with an American actress but it's still a really inaccurate portrayal of the city in that sense.

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I did notice Asian, Indian and African people in the background.

Specially noticeable are two Asians in the tube, and John Hanna's secretary.

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Not the first post about it probably not going to be the last. But all I have to say it get over it. And as a poster above said if I watched a movie about L.A and cars were driving on the left side of the road no I wouldn't mind because I don't really care about insignificant (yes that's the word I'm going to use) things like that.
I'm going to use the classic most hated phrase 'Its a movie'.
I can see why you guys had a problem but come on was it really that big of a deal?

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