Sounded more like fresh of the boat African than 1920s ante bellum African American.
This movie though filmed well is pure hogwash... the official reports of what happened was very different. The director known for his extreme anti-white prejudice just amplifies the dramatic license.
In many cases white women were in fact really raped, those stories will probably never be told either. Such is the PC requirement of this country now.
You are stupid
sharenever felt compelled to reply before but you are an imbecile
i suppose the gas chambers didnt exist either
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as a first generation canadian, i speak for my parents and ancestors.
you are pure bullsh!t if ther is such a thing.
it makes me sad that you are not very well educated in the folly of mankind. yes, in that time black people may have very well raped white women. but i LOVE how you don't mention how white men raped black women. did that slip your mind? are you saying that this movie is overblown? i agree it is dramatized, but it is as it should be. downplaying what happened to that town would be unjust.
what do you think the survivors were thinking? dont you agree that their story should be told...from ther perspective? or is it tainted because they're all biased?
~people like you send people like to me jail~
I don't see why everyone's freaking on Macjoubert, they didn't even say anything that bad. So what if they have an opinion about the film's direction or story, at least they're bringing that up. You people are talking *beep* about them instead of arguing the points they're bringing up. You people need to shut the *beep* up and not bitch about someone for their film opinion, try speaking about the films merits instead which none of you managed to do and down-play or re-iterate their comments. Worthless mother *beep*
shareYes, I agree. I don't see why everyone is so angry with Macjoubert. The movie wasn't historically accurate. Period. That's an undisputed fact.
When I saw this film I had just seen a documentary on the subject so I was really looking forward to the movie. I was fascinated by a self-sustaining, flourishing, all-black town in the 1920s. People would make you think such a thing couldn't exist back then. I was also interested in Mr. Wright, who appeared to have an honest, and synergistic relationship to the people of Rosewood. As a matter or fact, he hid the townspeople from the angry mobsters, and was generally considered the hero in this horrible event. But, and here's where Macjoubert has a point, Singleton did not want a white protagonist. Actually, in the very first scene with Mr. Wright (Voight) it shows him bending some girl over the pickle barrel. There was no evidence that the real Mr. wright did anything in that town that was considered morally questionable or self-serving.
So, instead of sticking to the facts (which should be important when you are making a film about true events) he just made a bunch of stuff up. Mann (Rames charcter) didn't even exist! Sorry, but I thought his whole character, appearing out of nowhere to save the day on his big ole horse Booker T. that can outrun trains, for cryin' out loud, was totally ridiculous! I guess Singleton thinks that we have to be spoonfed a bunch of melodratic crap to be entertained; that facts aren't enough to keep us interested. Why make a historical drama if history means nothing to him? What he did was make a cheesey flick that ignored truth just becuase he thinks that is what you have to do to make something suitable for mass consumption. Like we are a bunch of idiots, right? I remember when I saw the movie with friends, as the house lights came on I said "Man, that ranks about a 10 on the cheese-o-meter." And my friends held back a snicker, but then quikly shushed me and pointed out several poeple in the audience who were crying. I felt sorry for their being fooled. I wanted to tell them that doing a little more research on the real Rosewood would serve them well. That's there's a really interesting tale to be told.
I do, on the other hand, think that is pretty plausible that a spoiled, rich white woman would cry rape to keep herself out of trouble. And that she would point the finger at a black man because she thinks it will gain her more sympathy. Some people are self-serving and that's the sad reality. And that's got nothing to do with race.
Like we are a bunch of idiots, right? I remember when I saw the movie with friends, as the house lights came on I said "Man, that ranks about a 10 on the cheese-o-meter." And my friends held back a snicker, but then quikly shushed me and pointed out several poeple in the audience who were crying. I felt sorry for their being fooled
Umm. Chuck. Sorry you are uninformed. But that movie came out in the theaters.
I was not on psychadelics, bro. It was at the theater. Not even confused about that fact.
There goes your credibility.
I agree & Fannie Taylor was hardly rich or well to do. Most of these people were ignorant dirt poor...barely literate.
The doc serves it's purpose historically & it's available. Singleton rather than making a few films of the same theme simply integrated other realities that were in practice. Fleshing out and bringing the viewer into their reality.
There very well could have been a Mr. Mann-like character involved.
Rallying terrified AA men, women & children probably would not have fallen squarely on the shoulder of a white man alone. I'm sure he had some serious back up from someone in the AA community.
Also take out Mr.Mann then to we omit the reasoning behind the stranger in town "Jessie". So they raised all that hell for an insider? as small as that town was, the real culprit would have been revealed asap. But the truth isn't what they were after anyway.
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Saw it the the theatres with my family dude. The poster's credibility is fine. Yours for being so adamantly wrong is a whole different story.
I don't do signatures. ^_^
I do, on the other hand, think that is pretty plausible that a spoiled, rich white woman would cry rape to keep herself out of trouble. And that she would point the finger at a black man because she thinks it will gain her more sympathy. Some people are self-serving and that's the sad reality. And that's got nothing to do with race.
"In many cases..." well this is not the case. This movie is based on the Rosewood massacre. White women in America have a history of lying about rape and blaming it on Black men, both innocent and imaginary. Accept it and deal with it.
Yes, I agree. I don't see why everyone is so angry with Macjoubert. The movie wasn't historically accurate. Period. That's an undisputed fact.
When I saw this film I had just seen a documentary on the subject so I was really looking forward to the movie. I was fascinated by a self-sustaining, flourishing, all-black town in the 1920s. People would make you think such a thing couldn't exist back then.
I was also interested in Mr. Wright, who appeared to have an honest, and synergistic relationship to the people of Rosewood. As a matter or fact, he hid the townspeople from the angry mobsters, and was generally considered the hero in this horrible event. But, and here's where Macjoubert has a point, Singleton did not want a white protagonist. Actually, in the very first scene with Mr. Wright (Voight) it shows him bending some girl over the pickle barrel. There was no evidence that the real Mr. wright did anything in that town that was considered morally questionable or self-serving.
Hillbillybob
Actually according to what I read from the newspaper records from that time.
It DID happen, and no white woman was raped.
They were reprinted in the Fort Lauderdale SunSentinal news paper either as a suppliment or in the Sunday edition about the time this film was in production.
I lived in SoFla and read them.
White people were as ignorant then as now, unfortunately.
Ante Bellum is Incorrect, Ante means Before , Bellum means war.
1820s would be Antebellum,
1920 is post bellum after The wars referring to the Civil War or War Between the States or as some still call it round here in my part of NC , The War of Northern Aggression.
Yes some white women were raped at different times in different places.
Many more black ones were, raped while being slaves so there is rape of their life , their person and their culture.
This story had some minor changes for dramatic purposes to move it along.
In all its about 99^ true.
What we are taught in history classes is skewed but it takes a real f k p to get it this wrong.
Time to go to the library bud and start in the dictionary section.
At the time of slavery rape of black women was not illegal hence not wrong in the eyes of the law at the time. But rapes of many white women occurred after slavery was dismantled and new laws instated so it was against the law.
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Hillbillybob
After further reading and research. It turns out that a white guy that the woman was having an affair with beat her up, that was the "rape". He was friends with one of the other workers who was black at the mill they both worked for. the white guy went to him after beating up the white woman and the black guy ended up accused of the rape. He was then murdered, As to their accents who knows were you there? I was not. I have heard a variety of accents after living in several Southern states. Some sounded very draw Southern some sounded almost foreign.
Ever been to the outer banks of NC? Gullah sounds almost like straight from Africa to most folks though they have been in the States for a few centuries.
They even have their own language-dialect that is more or less a different language.
A Documented History Of the Massacre which occured at Rosewood, Florida, in January 1923, was submitted to the Florida Board of Regents on December 22, 1993 from The Rosewood Report
http://www.displaysforschools.com/history.html
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.
Hey I live in Florida and I have to say that accent is authentic A lot of the Black that I know talk like they do in this movie. as far as this movie being anti-white this movie is based on actual events, things like this really did happen back then,,,, and I am white BTW
shareFresh off the boat from Africa?!? The original black slaves didn't speak english at all when they arrived, and recent African immigrants have a distinctive accent that sounds nothing like the ones in the film... what a retard the OP is.
How do you know that John Singleton is known for "extreme Anti-white prejudice..?? This is the only movie he has did of this nature. In many cases there were alot of senseless killings of innocent african-americans also that will never be told either...so what you are talking is a bunch of HOGWASH..!!!
No one is saying that white women weren't raped, so were black women and by their white masters...So my dear friend speak only on what you know and not what you assume.....
John Singleton isn't anti-white, merely one of the first prominent black directors. He is still the youngest best director nominee at 24 years old! I guess instead of directing projects which are socially relevant and meaningful to him, he should've done Regarding Henry or something!
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