There was a scene where a Lion jumped out of a bush and killed one of Bethlehams men? What was that about and why did I miss the explanation or did I?
The movie was fair. Definately not even close to top 100 films in the last 20 years like some people are stating.
Said in the film that before the war "there must have been a zoo around here."
shareYes. And that makes sense because if there's a war, the lions would just jump the fence. And survive in the wild. And not be killed by radiation. About as logical as the rest of the movie.
shareIn the book it explains it better than that. It talks about the crazies that released the animals so they had a chance of survival and would not just starve in their cages. Also, Oregon escaped most of the radiation because most of the bombings were further west, past Wyoming. As a matter of fact there wee very few bombs launched at all, most were anti-tech bombs anyways so they would not cause any radiation at all. What caused the downfall was not massive radiation and nuclear winter...it was Holn, that's the whole point of the book. It was not that man was ruined by his technology or his abuse of it, man survived the bombings just fine and was ruined by the greediness and selfish nature or a few horribly bad seeds.
shareSounds like they should have just adapted the book then, instead of whatever we got.
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Oh, they did a lot more than just adapt the book. They changed a lot of things from the book to make the movie. They almost did a rewrite on the story.
shareI haven't read the book, but I recall the scene in question, and I don't see the problem. No movie could every possibly explain every little tidbit that happens, such as why there is a lion on the loose in Oregon. Movies that try are usually the ones that fail, there just isn't usually enough time and rarely an artful/interesting way of doing that sort of exposition.
But it's not like a lion in Oregon is such a crazy notion, given the situation. When that part popped up in the movie, my first thought was that there was a zoo and some animals escaped, or some animals were let free by animal lovers so that they could survive. Seeing a free roaming lion in Oregon in a post-apocalyptic world is perfectly within reason.
Now if it were something like a killer clown on the loose and somebody said, "must've been a circus here before the war..." then the OP would have a point.
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The book was not really all that good, I thought. The ideas were interesting, but too cobbled together, and the end was quite over the top. It just could not seem to make up its mind as to whether it wanted to be a grounded post apocalyptic story, or a more science fiction story.
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East. Further east. Oregon is west of Wyoming (it's west of anything in the US except for Hawaii and parts of Alaska). Unless Asia or Russia was bombed all the bombing was done east of the west coast.
shareHaha, thanks for the correction. Being corrected 4 years after the fact is certainly better than living in ignorance for the rest of my life :)
shareDamn you PETA!!!! I hope those idiots got attacked while letting those "poor" animals loose into the country! LMAO!
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So you have no problem with human survivors, but take issue with animal survivors? Okay.......................
sharea "goddamn zoo" to be precise
sharewere you listening to the dialog?
"There must have been a zoo here before the war!"
Besides, the lion was just a symbol. I'm surprised you noticed that unrealistic aspect of the movie but have no problem with "the government is gone and cities are abandoned" aspect!
Maybe Jeffrey Goines had friends in Oregon before the war?
shareIt's possible, but there should have been monkeys wandering around, too. I didn't see any of them...LOL
If your nose runs and your feet smell, you were built upside down.
And giraffes!
Glad someone here is a fan of 12 Monkeys!
Yeah, 12 Monkeys was a pretty good movie. I've only seen it twice, but it's pretty unforgettable.
Also, I think the next time I see "The Postman" I will look for the graffiti. That will be a sure sign that the "Army of the Twelve Monkeys" were there...LOL.
If your nose runs and your feet smell, you were built upside down.
If I saw "We did it!" in red paint on Bethlehems HQ I would have laughed myself silly.
shareand the movie would have made an amazing amount of money
or at least much more then it did
Someday IMDB WILL make the signature a signature and not an ad hock ad on to the post
I don't think monkeys could survive in the wild in Oregon, the winter cold would kill them. Lions and other big cats would do fine. They adapt to cold weather quite well.
share"It's possible, but there should have been monkeys wandering around, too. I didn't see any of them...LOL"
Maybe the lions ate them. ;)
The lion ate them :P
shareI just got past the part where they mention the lion in the book. Indeed they appeared to be either zoo animals or exotic pets... They then were released into the wild where they bred with local cougars or each other and created a new breed of cat. I believe they referred to the new breed as "Tiger" or some such, but they sound like some sort of hybid.
The book is WAY better then this film btw, one of my favorite books!
The lion was shown following Gordon at the beginning of the movie, did you miss that part?
OMG! (it's not what you think)
Because, as said by others, there are zoos all around the US. Some animals might have coped better than others, and lions sure would have what it takes to survive.
Now where are those pesky monkeys, that is a more pressing question :-)