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Could There Have Been LESS Chemistry?


This movie had some laughs (Jack was funny but just because he was always insulting everyone), Greg Kinnear was awesome, Cuba Gooding was annoying and over acting, Helen Hunt was incredibly bland) but the worst part was that there was not one stitch of chemistry between Helen Hunt's character and Jack Nicholson's character or even one scene which would lead you to believe she liked him in any sort of romantic way and then at the end, out of the blue, she calls him her 'boyfriend'?

Terrible.

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She was repressed.

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She is also desperate for a man, so she went for what was available.

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Plus...he was quite rich, rich enough to pay for medical care for her son.

Oh, but seriously, with that richness aspect as (to me, at least) pretty key, the story made its point: Jack was handsome and sexy to her except he was crazy(she told him all this.) And, well, he was rich. The problem was his craziness, but he was taking his pills and trying to be a better man.

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i think you guys are going into too much detail, helen hunt was not the right choice for this movie

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Helen Hunt is not the right choice for any movie.

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As Good As It Gets bothered me because I never believed that the relationship between the two characters was going to work at the end. They were trying all throughout the movie and it wasn't working, and then the film ends with them still trying. It seemed incomplete. Yeah, Melvin walked on the cracks, but it seemed to me like something concrete was still missing.

Despite showing Melvin change in his behavior toward Simon and his ability to walk on cracks, I did feel there needed to be a stronger moment that showed us 1) she really wanted to be with Melvin and 2) Melvin was truly able to overcome his issues in order to be with her.

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Well stated, and I agree. This is a movie where the parts aren't the sum of the whole...or something like that.

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I thought Carol was very unmovable too. It seemed to be all about her now that she didn't have to worry about her son. When Mel was walking in the street and she was on the sidewalk(cause of the cracks) and she looked at him like he was crazy I thought that was mean and ignorant. She knows he has a problem; he's trying to get better-for her. Why couldn't she step over a few feet and walk beside him? Instead of saying this isn't going to work. Nobodys perfect. If the next boyfriend is a recovering alcoholic and she knows she likes a drink once in a while I guess that one's no good either. I really didn't like her much; except she was a good Mom.

Cindy

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She was rude to Melvin BECAUSE he was rude to other people. She was the only one who could actually make him shut up, and in this case, that was a good thing. I mean, aren't you bashing Helen Hunt/her character a bit too much now? She got an Oscar for her performance, and I thought it was deserved. As for her character, she was a very good mom, and also a romantic who in the end chose to be with Melvin despite his serious problems, which he gave others a hard time for.

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I think everyone here completely missed the point. The movie doesn't say they end up together. They just simply continue trying like in real life. I don't know how many times I've been on and off with my girlfriend. The point is that there is no ending, life continues for all of these people, and the future is all but uncertain. Melvin and Carol may end up together, they may not, but for one morning they are just enjoying some fresh bread together.

The director didn't want to give it too much of a fairy tale ending, just wanted to give us enough to keep us happy.

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Recovering alcoholics cannot have "a drink once in a while"; one drink would send them into the pit. That is what alcoholism and AA are all about. If you can make a statement like that, then you do not understand or know anything about alcoholics. Just sayin'...

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That's not always the case. Moderation can be learned by some alcoholics ...just like how people with food addictions can learn to live healthily (they don't give up food)

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i can relate to this... by the end of the movie melvin did enough to get a short term girlfriend but who knows what else?

I'm fine with that though... i don't foresee wedding bells in there future but for a sixty year old single romance writer who rarely gets into a relationship, that's a big big win.

i guess you married dudes and gals can't appreciate the significance of that...

but i see the original poster's point. It's believable that melvin pursued hunt's character to get dates but you wouldn't expect them to end up together...

but he's in his sixties, never mentioned a marriage, that's a lot for him...

but for melvin to even pursue a woman, there is a ton of chemistry from his end, because he would have no hard time fooling around given his celebrity status...

who knows, she could be desperate enough to make it work...

she's spending all her time working and taking care of her sick son... she doesn't really have the opportunities you would expect her to have either...

if there was a sequel to this movie, who knows if they'd still be together?

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Yeah. What does the Academy know?

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the nipples perking out through her soaked t-shirt would be more than enough to pull her into his room and flip her around six ways from Sunday, but she is decent looking at best on very very best day.

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I don't know if it was so much a lack of chemistry between Hunt and Nicholson as it was the fact that Nicholson's character has little or no redeeming qualities and it's hard to understand how Carol would be attracted to Melvin in any way shape or form, other than expressing her gratitude for him paying for the doctor to visit her son.

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You see couples like them all of the time. She's beautiful, intelligent and feisty. He's talented, charimatic, rich and "cleans up nicely".

If you didn't feel that there was chemistry throughtout the movie, you are right. It was only in about the last 20 minutes, when the love, not intense chemisty began to unravel. So, the question begs. How much chemistry is required for a sustainable love? In this case, probably the minimal was sufficient.

Someone once said, you marry the first time for love. Second for security. Third for companionship.

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As for chemistry...Carol was an insightful individual...made desperate by bad luck, a chronically sick son and circumstance but she had excellent insights. She wasn't the only waitress in the restaurant who tolerated Melvin because she knew he was rich...no one there could stand him...she waited on him because she had insight into the deeper gentleness in his character, the stuff that resided beneath the OCD rituals and the racisim. Remember the interplay between them when he says "How old are you? If I had to go by your eyes I'd say you were 50" and without skipping a beat she says "...and if I went by your eyes I'd say you were kind so...so much for eyes eh?". It's a brilliant moment that reveals what she senses about him that's later externalized in his relationship with Verdell and then with Simon. Remember, Spencer is the apple of her eye and she knows what chronic illness can do to someone. She knows Melvin is sick ("...do it now...or leave...you crazy FU*%!!!") but she appreciates the human under the crust. It's also obvious she has an older man, daddy thing going on too. That's often chemistry enough. As for why he needs her...he states it without pretense and unecessary verbiage "...cause it relaxes me..."

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I agree; when they kissed at the end it was emotionless for me. He was way too old for her. Why would she even be attracted to him? Yah she was lonely but she was pretty. Now I'm not saying age matters but in this situation there was no flair, no va-va voom even. At least not that I could see.

Cindy

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Helen Hunt was a terrible choice for this movie, Jack Nicholson is a legend (see 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' if you need proof) i think if they'd picked a different female lead, but kept Nicholson it would have been fine, but they really didn't work together. Age shouldn't matter if the chemistry's right, it should just make sense. But all the way through this i kept thinking 'he's so much older than her, he's so much older than her' and when they kissed in the restaurant and at the end i was like 'but he's far too old for her!' so on account of all this. i didn't like the movie much.

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But there was a clue question in the movie everybody has missed: "What if this is as good as it gets?". So important that they made it the movie title. So what if Melvin is as good as Carol can get? I think this was the whole point (or one of the main points) of the movie, and those who think it was a bad ending or there wasn't enough chemistry probably didn't get that. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. And it has absolutely nothing to do with "expressing her gratitude for him paying for the doctor to visit her son".

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Not terrible, just different. I took it to be the intent of the movie not to create an obvious chemistry between Helen and Jack. Given the quality of the actors involved, I believe they could have created chemistry or created no chemistry according to what the director and producer intended. They were mismatched in so many ways. But to me that was part of the charm of the movie. In real life, do we never know or hear about where two people end up together despite the lack of chemistry; despite the apparent mismatch? If not, well, now at least we can imagine what that might look like.

my god its full of stars

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I wouldn't use the word 'hate', but I will. I hated Carol/Helen, she was terrible. I liked Jack Nicholson, I think he was great! Helen really sucked, she has no feelings. Terrible woman. Jack always does it for me, truly deserved that oscar. I don't know about Helen though.

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I never got that flurry of Helen Hunt as the girlfriend to have by the older actors (Nicholson, Gibson, Colin Firth) a few years back. Rene Russo I got, she was beautiful but more age appropriate. Helen Hunt with Paul Reiser, yes, with those other Mr. Cools, no.

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Mel Gibson is 8 years older than Helen Hunt, and Colin Firth is 3 years older. I would say they were quite "age appropriate". Maybe it's because Mel Gibson has been a big star for a long time, and Colin Firth has played some very buttoned-up characters, that you think they're older. Or maybe Helen Hunt looks young.

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Yall need to watch Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Same story behind the movie, told differently. No matter how hard you will look, youll never find your "perfect chemistry", just gotta take it as good as it gets.

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