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Can't ANYBODY apprecitate the fact that ......

posted 15 years ago by cowgirl_from_hell9
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It followed the story of the game? and it had characters from the game?

I mean come on, yes, MK: Annihilation is a terrible film... but...

if Uwe Boll had this project, he would've made Liu Kang die, Kung Lao come back to life, seek out the younger Kung Lao in Outworld. However the young Kung Lao is in cahoots with Shao Kahn and Sindel. So they bring Mileena back to life to open the portal to earthrealm...just because...she can. So, The old Kung Lao seeks out Johnny, a hobo. Sonya, a porn star. and Jax, a gangsta'. to seek out Shao Kahn and his minions. Oh and lets not forget Princess Kitana. Her t*ts will be hangin out half the time btw. anyways... The group fights their way across outworld fighting enemies like Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Baraka, Jin, Chun-Li, Vegita, Goku, Chi-Chi, Jade, Rayden, Fujin, Movado, Zombie Liu Kang, random hot ninja chicks, and a half goat man named Motaro. THey then make it to Shao Kahn's palace. Sindel does her banshee scream thing and knocks Kitana out the window. The old Kung Lao becomes angry and kills Sindel. he fights Shao Kahn and kills him, but they have no way to return to earthrealm so they now must fight a new adversary, KEIRA!!!!!

...really...They had their hearts in the right place i guess, but failed at executing it. who agrees with me?

[–] Radalan 15 years ago

I don't see how Uwe Boll can make this thing any worse.
This is on par with Dungeon Siege, Alone In The Dark and House Of The Dead.

[–] MetalgearSldSnk 15 years ago

LMFAO sounds like a Uwe Boll film for real. You should be a filmaker, with how crappy these adaptations have been I'm sure they will hire you in a heartbeat.

[–] Joe-the-Drifter 15 years ago

Boo-Yah! Uwe Boll is like the German, lesser known Michael Bay. A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

It followed the story of the game? and it had characters from the game?

Umm...it did but it bypasses Mortal Kombat 2 and really is a combo of MK3 and MK4, it had most of them in, but no development of the new characters and little screen time of the new ones.

It's like that stripey bag is mocking me... *beep* you stripey bag.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

Umm...it did but it bypasses Mortal Kombat 2 and really is a combo of MK3 and MK4,

Far be it from me to defend this film (though I did find it adequately enjoyable, nothing great, but adequate), but MKII wasn't bypassed, the first film was an amalgamation of the first 2 games

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

ehh....that is really stretching it to say that, the only two things that the First movie had from the second game were, Kitana, and the young Shang Tsung, outside of that, everything else was all from one. So from mortal kombat 2 your have bypassed, Shao Khan holding his own tournament, Kintaro (my favorite boss) Sonya and Kano being held prisoner by Shao Khan (I don't count the end of 1 as Sonya's capture from 2 because it was Shang Tsung who kidnapped her, and it was for one match not the tournament)

It's like that stripey bag is mocking me... *beep* you stripey bag.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

ehh....that is really stretching it to say that,

ehh....no

the only two things that the First movie had from the second game were, Kitana, and the young Shang Tsung, outside of that, everything else was all from one.

When combining more than one game into one movie, not everything is going to be kept. And you left out Reptile. Yes, he is a hidden character in the first MK, but he was just a green palette swap of Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The character in the movie is clearly based heavily on the character from MKII. Also scripted, but not filmed (though it was kept in the novelization), was a scene where Sonya fights Shang Tsung's bodyguard, a female ninja named Jade. That's another MKII reference.

So from mortal kombat 2 your have bypassed, Shao Khan holding his own tournament, Kintaro (my favorite boss)

Like I said, combining both games into one movie will cause certain things to be left out. I'd love to hear your explanation as to why Shao Kahn would hold his own tournament when there's already one going on? And they couldn't include Goro and Kintaro, so they went with the more popular Shokan

Sonya and Kano being held prisoner by Shao Khan (I don't count the end of 1 as Sonya's capture from 2 because it was Shang Tsung who kidnapped her, and it was for one match not the tournament)

Sonya's capture was still a reference to her character's capture in MKII, no matter how much you want to dig your heels into the dirt and say it isn't. You don't have to like it, but you're going to have to accept it.

Sounds to me like you just want to have your cake and eat it too. Either that, or you're just searching for any reason to justify your thought pattern.

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

When combining more than one game into one movie, not everything is going to be kept. And you left out Reptile. Yes, he is a hidden character in the first MK, but he was just a green palette swap of Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The character in the movie is clearly based heavily on the character from MKII. Also scripted, but not filmed (though it was kept in the novelization), was a scene where Sonya fights Shang Tsung's bodyguard, a female ninja named Jade. That's another MKII reference.

Well the novelization and movie are two TOTALLY different things. We are talking strictly movie and game here, in the movies, Jade is not introduced until the 2nd movie, and also in MKII Jade was a pallet change of Sonya, not Kitana and Meelina like in 3. Also i never remember in Reptile's past he was created by a lizard like creature got sucked into an outwolrd statue. Also I know not everythign is going to be kept, but little nuances and bits here and there can't or should n't be constituted as combining two games.

Like I said, combining both games into one movie will cause certain things to be left out. I'd love to hear your explanation as to why Shao Kahn would hold his own tournament when there's already one going on? And they couldn't include Goro and Kintaro, so they went with the more popular Shokan

The Plot of Mortal Kombat II is "Following his defeat, Shang Tsung begs his master, Shao Kahn, to spare his life. He tells Shao Kahn that the invitation for Mortal Kombat cannot be turned down, and if they hold it in Outworld, the Earthrealm warriors must attend. Kahn agrees to this plan, and restores Tsung's youth. He extends the invitation to Raiden, who gathers his warriors and takes them into Outworld. The tournament is dangerous, as Shao Kahn has the home field advantage, and an Outworld victory will unbalance the furies and allow Outworld to subsume Earthrealm." It's a new Tournamet that Khan starts...so there

Sounds to me like you just want to have your cake and eat it too. Either that, or you're just searching for any reason to justify your thought pattern.

My thought pattern is just, you cant say its a combination of 2 games, when one is barley refferenced. How can you say, well this is based on MK 1 and 2, when the movie is 98% the first game and 2% of the second, where it's all more or less easter egg crap then actual substance.

It's like that stripey bag is mocking me... *beep* you stripey bag.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

and also in MKII Jade was a pallet change of Sonya, not Kitana and Meelina like in 3

That's wrong. In MKII, Jade was a green palette swap of Kitana and even fought with her fans.

Also i never remember in Reptile's past he was created by a lizard like creature got sucked into an outwolrd statue.

Which is why I said "based on" and not "an exact duplicate of"

Also I know not everythign is going to be kept, but little nuances and bits here and there can't or should n't be constituted as combining two games.

But alas, they can and do. Anal about minutia much?

The Plot of Mortal Kombat II is "Following his defeat, Shang Tsung begs his master, Shao Kahn, to spare his life. He tells Shao Kahn that the invitation for Mortal Kombat cannot be turned down, and if they hold it in Outworld, the Earthrealm warriors must attend. Kahn agrees to this plan, and restores Tsung's youth. He extends the invitation to Raiden, who gathers his warriors and takes them into Outworld. The tournament is dangerous, as Shao Kahn has the home field advantage, and an Outworld victory will unbalance the furies and allow Outworld to subsume Earthrealm." It's a new Tournamet that Khan starts...so there

Well the movie and the second video game are two TOTALLY different things. We are talking strictly the movie here, and in the movie, there is already a tournament going on, and you haven't explained why, in the movie, with a tournament already in progress, Shao Kahn would call another one...so there nothing

My thought pattern is just, you cant say its a combination of 2 games, when one is barley refferenced. How can you say, well this is based on MK 1 and 2, when the movie is 98% the first game and 2% of the second, where it's all more or less easter egg crap then actual substance.

Considering that the movie has Kitana, Reptile, Jax (briefly), Johnny Cage's Friendship move, and a young Shang Tsung, it's clear to apparently everybody but you that the movie is based off of the first two games. If it wasn't based off of both MK and MKII, then none of that stuff would have been in there at all, now would it?

However, points awarded for your conviction. I guess the important thing is that at least you think you make sense.

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

Ok, with Jade, I apoligize, yes I was wrong, I was remembering a old rumor that in the first game that - during the second endurance match, if you get two flawless victories AND do your fatality, with out blocking (just like to fight reptile) you were able to fight "Jade" which was a greened out Sonya. now getting back to...

Well the movie and the second video game are two TOTALLY different things. We are talking strictly the movie here, and in the movie, there is already a tournament going on, and you haven't explained why, in the movie, with a tournament already in progress, Shao Kahn would call another one...so there nothing

Ok let me explain this again, the second game is a BRAND NEW TOURNAMENT, that Shang Tsung convinces Shao Khan to hold to re-challenge Earthrealm in Mortal Kombat, which they must accept. The progression from their is, Khan furious at his loss in outworld to Liu Kang he puts into his plan of bringing Queen Sindel back to life. which they also never explain in this horrible movie that she needed to be ressurected in Earthrealm for Khan's plan to work. The progression of the movies should have been like the games, cause this movie, should have been Khan's tournament and then the invasion of earth.

you also said at one point, "Like I said, combining both games into one movie will cause certain things to be left out." Leaving out a whole plot point and bypassing storyline, that's a lot to be left out.

Considering that the movie has Kitana, Reptile, Jax (briefly), Johnny Cage's Friendship move, and a young Shang Tsung, it's clear to apparently everybody but you that the movie is based off of the first two games. If it wasn't based off of both MK and MKII, then none of that stuff would have been in there at all, now would it?

Reptile still doesn't count since he was in the first game, you will not be changing my opinion on that. So they added two character, one of which was used for character building only, A single friendship move, and the alternate verison of another character. wow that was really worth throwing away the second game for and going straight to the earthrealm invasion...which they screwed up.

It's like that stripey bag is mocking me... *beep* you stripey bag.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

There is nothing I can say to someone who adamantly shoves his fingers in his ears. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, so it's a waste of my time at this point. You're certainly entitled to your opinion that the Mortal Kombat movie wasn't based on the first two games. You just keep right on thinking that

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[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

Fine you stubborn jackass, you win happy...

Resorting to childish insults? You're more mature than that...

I'm sorry i don't see that 2 1/2 characters and 1 f'ing movie from 1 game put into a movie about another constitutes a full amalgamation of 2 games.

We were over this, we're not going over it again. There is a difference between "based on" and "amalgamation". A difference I humbly suggest you learn

I'm sorry that this movie, which could have capitalized on the first mortal kombat decided to bypass an entire storyline just so they could make this garbage.

If you say Mortal Kombat is garbage, it makes it hard for me to believe that you saw Annihilation. MK is considered one of the best and most faithful video game film adaptations. Granted, with comparisons to movies like Street Fighter, Super Mario Bros., and House of the Dead, "most faithful" doesn't seem like a hard title to earn

Yeah we are two shmucks who are arguing symantics over a Mortal Kombat movie,

We do seem to be enjoying our schmuckery don't we

but I DO see your points, yes the DO USE things from MKII but for the amount of content that they use, with the exception of Kitana, it's nothing more than easter eggs.
- Jax was mainly used for background on Sonya, a total of 2 minutes screen time if that.
- the "young" Shang Tsung. probably easier to use the young version, then put him in makeup for hours to make him old.
- the friendship move for Johnny... it was that, Rip Scorpion in half or uppercut him so hard it decapitates him...that and the way Linden Ashby played Cage, it fit the character.

They definitely could have done much more and much better with the references and characters (such as giving Jax more screen time, and introducing Mileena with Kitana), but I was just saying that even though they were small references to MKII, they were still in there

but where I have come back and countered them all you do is end off with, "you do get it, I'm right and your wrong"...I know you did actually use those words but that's how it comes off.

Then I guess it's up to me to apologize for that, but in all fairness you seemed to be coming off with a mindset that the first movie was not based on MK and MKII, in which case I kinda was right (don't hit me )

In my first posting I had said that this (MK:A) was more of 3 and 4 combined, well looking in hindsight, they did with this movie the same as the first, they took 3, and inserted Shinnok...that's it. So this movie really is all 3 with 1 character from MK4...two if you count at the end when Raiden is made an Elder God, cause everything else...for the most part, is all MK3 the characters, the "plot".

You're right, it is mostly UMK3, just like the first movie is mostly MK, with parts from other games.

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

Resorting to childish insults? You're more mature than that...

Sorry I was just so frustrated when I started this...

If you say Mortal Kombat is garbage, it makes it hard for me to believe that you saw Annihilation. MK is considered one of the best and most faithful video game film adaptations. Granted, with comparisons to movies like Street Fighter, Super Mario Bros., and House of the Dead, "most faithful" doesn't seem like a hard title to earn

No, I loved Mortal Kombat, and is one of my favorite VG movies ever. My referal of Garbage was to MK:A (which IS the board we are on)They bypassed the story of MKII (the game) for this garbage (MK:A) And there have been other movies that have held close to source material: Hitman, Silent Hill...umm... well that's all that is coming to mind right now.

I think we have finally come to ahead on our back and forthing... This was actually fun, I just hope the eventual Mortal Kombat movie (in 20XX) will be better than the first one, and not worse than the second.

I want to learn how to blow up *beep* with my mind.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

Please don't get me started on Hitman

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

It has been a long time since I played through one of the Hitman games...but if you don't compare game to movie (I know you'll blast me for that...) It was actually a good movie...at least I thought... hell better then most of the crap out there...

I want to learn how to blow up *beep* with my mind.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

but if you don't compare game to movie (I know you'll blast me for that...) It was actually a good movie...

No blasts today, I say the same thing about Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

An excellent sci-fi movie, an epic fail as a Final Fantasy film

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

Please, don't get me started on that movie... though I do agree with you 100% if you took off the Final Fantasy, and just called it, The Spirits Within, then it would have been a good movie, but when you call something Final Fantasy, and have 0 elements of what final fantasy is...then we got problems.

I want to learn how to blow up *beep* with my mind.

[–] Zan-tastic 15 years ago

Well...there was a Sid

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[–] Griever_2112 15 years ago

your right...but they didn't even spell his name right...so i count it as a half... (Every one that was in the games as a character or NPC was always spelt Cid)

I want to learn how to blow up *beep* with my mind.

[–] bazmi 15 years ago

Yes, I can appreciate those facts you have posted.

[–] shadyvsesham 11 years ago

Lol, well dang Im late as this was made so long ago, but I have to say I more agree with the Griever than Zan.

MK1 REPRESENTED MK1, not 2. MK: A basically said screw MK2, MK1 was not a mix of MK1-2. It wasnt. MK1s story was basically how it was in the game.

I dont see how anyone can think the first MK had to do with MK 1 and 2.

Reptile was a hidden character in 1.

Jax...was that Jax? Did she say Jax, I dont remember, I think she did though. Still, he was barely in it at all. That was fan service.

As someone else said, there were 2 characters from MK2, again, fan service. You cant possibly believe this had elements of 1 and 2.

As for young Shang Tsung, they could find an older actor or just let him be young, that is really stretching it!

[–] VektorPrime 11 years ago

I love this movie. I don't care what anybody says. Yes, it was cheesy, didn't even have a half decent plot, but I enjoyed it anyways. If you look at it simply a martial arts film and not expect it to live up to MK's source material, then it looks like a pretty cool film with all these over the top characters. I'd prefer MK:A over any martial art film that I've ever seen. Even over Enter The Dragon.

[–] DrunkPanda 11 years ago

That fake ewe boll script sounds good to me. I'd like to see Sonya as a porn star and kitana with her tits hanging out. Make this happen, ewe boll

[–] OneDoomedSpaceMarine 8 years ago

Uwe Boll would have also done something extremely lame like make Raiden and Shao Kahn brothers.
Except they actually did do that.

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