Is Quince a Pedophile?


I felt that a couple of scenes this movie strongly implicated that Alison's husband(?) Quince might be a Pedophile. At one of the dinners he's having together with William's family, he suddenly burst out "I love little girls!!!" seemingly for no reason. I thought "W T F? What was that supposed to mean?" but in the end at the party, I'm given the explanation, when Quince breaks and says to Joe Black that Alison is wonderful for loving him even though she know about his darkest secret (He is sexually attracted to children).

I was suprised that nobody had started a thread about this yet, so therefore I started one myself. My very first one, I think. I could not be the only one who reacted to these scenes, could I? Or have I misunderstood them totally?

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It's been years since I've seen this movie, but I thought the same thing: This dude's a pedophile!!!

And check the look his wife gives him right after he says this. You can tell she doesn't know whether she should $hit or kill him on the spot!

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And just look at the age gap of Quincy and his wife. I bet he is dating litte miss Allison on her teens. Remember when Joe asked how he and Allison met and he replied something like a loser and a rich-man's kid. That just prove his affinity for younger women :)

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According to documentaries, literature, art, and world history....ALL men are apparently pedophiles.

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Uh, it's possible, but I think you may be reading into things too much. The scene where he says, "I love little girls," does get a response from the rest of the dinner party and I think it was meant to be one of those classic comic momments where the person then follows up with "... wait a minute... that didn't sound right," but he didn't probably because Quince is that type of guy that just says whatever comes to mind. Like he says "Hey, buddy!" to Joe right after he's introduced for the first time. Plus, I think he's meant to come across as a little dumb at times. Writers have been known to have sub-backgrounds to characters that never get directly introduced in the film but are suggested by other elements that do appear, which may only be confirmed through their commentary or notes, so it's possible this could be one of those things, but I'd like to think it's not the case here. If I had to guess, I'd say a dark secret for Quince would be that he is a recovering alcoholic or gambling addict. Even though being sexually attracted to children doesn't necessarily make him a bad person, particularly if he doesn't act on it, I think Quince's character is meant to be truely lovable, so for something like that to be associated with him would spoil that. After all, Joe even says, "Oh yes, Quince. You're one of my favorites." Granted this is Death speaking, but through other context we know that even Death has a sense of good and bad. Also, after Quince says, "She knows the worst thing about me and it's OK," Joe asks, "What is it?" and Quince begins to explain that it's not just one thing, but he means it in a collective way. Anyway, that's my take on it.

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Well, maybe so... either way, Quince kinda bothers me because he looks just too damn much like Doctor Phil.

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It's been a long time since I've seen this, but I do recall him also saying something just prior to the little girl thing about, " I love.... (whatever it was) [keychains]". So it did sorta fall into place and not just come out of the blue like some sort of perverted admission to being a pedophile.

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"I love lamp." .. ? =)

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I always was under the impressiong that his darkest secret was that he knew what Drew was planning to do to Bill and he didn't have the spine to do something to stop him.

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Quince was not a pedophile, it was just a line of awkward humor. I love little girls, they're adorable. But I'm pretty gay so no I'm not a pedophile. See how that can work? lol.
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Also, if you think about it, that's something a pedophille wouldn't say. He'd be more careful and guarded about his attraction.

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haha i always think the same thing (dr phil)

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even if it was a secret character background thing, they mayve wanted to include it to highlight the fact that while he is a pedo, he still loves his wife and suppresses that demon, while being a good person too. Thats assuming hes a pedo. Its by no means conclusive. But its easy to say that anyone watching the film back would notice it, and so they couldve changed it to disclude it from the story. The fact is its irrelevant. He has demons, which he himself alludes to, as everyone does. Its what type of person he is that is important which is what the film highlights.

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I agree with you completely!

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I am formerly known as HillieBoliday......member since May 2006:

bwtarmey3...you said...

"Even though being sexually attracted to children doesn't necessarily make him a bad person, particularly if he doesn't act on it...."


I don't know if Quince was a pedophile....although his comment was somewhat disturbing...just look at the expression on his wife's face. I think being sexually attracted to children is pure evil and vile....and if you are....you are definitely a BAD PERSON! Now....you might be the kindest, and most generous, courteous, nice individual anyone could ever want to meet...but if a person harbors that kind of attraction toward children.......SOMETHING IS EXTREMELY WRONG AND BAD! I also think that kind of unnatural desire is fueled and propagated by a demonic spirit!!

A child is a pure, simple soul who has a certain faith, and is not strong enough to resist attack, whether it be physical, emotional or mental. Your worse perpetrator, whether deranged or not....recognizes the sweet innocence of children, and knows within their heart of hearts that innocence should be respected! It is an evil spirit within them that drives their desire to indulge sexually with a child or even just thinking about it! To betray a child's faith, or damage his morals and his physical body by evil example; teaching that child to sin, the sneers and disdain at the loss of their innocence, the violation of their innocence through sexual acts...and then justifying those gross offences inacted upon them, is a deadly sin denounced by Jesus Christ in.....Matthew 18:6:

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he be drowned in the depth of the sea."

Jesus is saying.....It is better for everyone concerned, or literally.... profitable; that you be put to death FIRST, rather than perpetrate such a heinous crime against innocent children! By this extreme act of suicidal death....you avoid committing this despicable sin.....and save the soul of the innocent victim.

Children who endure and manage to survive black, evil sexual sins levied against them by others.....ARE NEVER THE SAME! There is a part of them (their soul) that is damaged, if not completely destroyed...FOREVER!



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Let's be clear. Being attracted to children isn't inherently evil. It's something that's burned into the brain. Acting on that attraction is evil.

One of the necessary steps to recovery from this type of sexual addiction is learning to acknowledge those impulses. Without acknowledging them the person will never get control over them. So I will ask you to stop telling my patients that their thoughts are evil. Their thoughts and attractions are their own private business.

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You're misunderstanding it completely. He's just a silly guy. That's quite obvious in the movie. When he says that his wife knows the worst about him and still loves him, he's referring to the fact that they love each other so much, regardless of their faults. Allison knows all the bad parts of him and still loves him and that's why betraying her father hurts him so much.

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yeah he does look a bit like dr phil doesnt he?lol! i didnt get that impression of quince but i dont think hes a pedo...thats just weird :O

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In my opinion Quince is just the type of person that says things and means them in an innocent way (just like when he told the board that the boss is depending on Joe)-- he is not the brightest guy (but always has the best intentions)...I feel like it was just one of those things that he didn't even understand what saying "I love little girls" might sound like to others...ya know?


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Wow, no doubt that pedophilia has become an authentic witch hunt in America; anyone makes a comment, as innocent as it migth be and the inquisition is ready to go and burn him at the stake.

Anyways, like some other posters with common sense have pointed out, No, he was not a pedophile; he made that comment in an innocent way because the poor guy isn't very brigth and speaks his mind before thinking. They were talking about when Parrish's daugthers were children, so he made that comment, simple as that. His wife gives him a fierce look after that, like saying; Dude, think before you put your tongue into use! but that's about it.

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Exactly. He meant it innocently, but his wife was embarrassed that he said it, especially since he interrupted her father, whom she dotes on in the extreme. Hence her "how could you" cringe face at his tactlessness.

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i agree, he's just a simple guy who said it in an innocent way

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How could someobody not see that this was just supposed to be something he said that was awkward.

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I noticed that too...and definitely almost literally "ROFLMAO". Good times....goooood times. But yeah I also thought that maybe it was just one of his dumb moments...who knows.

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It simply amazes me that folks jump to conclusions about something like this. Quince made an innocent observation and then "politically corrected" himself when he realized it sounded perverted.

THAT is what our society has come to.

And THAT is what has spurred this thread.

Quince is a simple soul. And his darkest secret? He's a dud in business. He doesn't have the inner spark to shine in the communications company. Despite this, his wife adores him. She doesn't "need" for him to equal her father or Drew as a "wheel." That's Quince's failing.

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I think pulliamrl has it exactly right. Quince is a basically decent man who drinks too fast and thinks too slowly. He is amazed that his wife loves him despite his weakness and ordinariness, but he is not a pedophile.

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I think some people here are just being silly cause it's cool to think everyone else is "F-up"
We all got the point in the movie...it's elementary. He said something like most people would and didn't
think anything bad until it came out and heard what he just said and everyone in the table got the
same idea, but knew he didn't mean it. It was a joke for the audience which is what we all got.
His faults I'm sure are normal character flaws most of us have and no it wouldn't necessarily be that
of a pedophile. It's just the cynical way some of us like to indulge ourselves in. It really is an
unoriginal way of thinking. I tend to think of it as a personality trend.

It's just a contemporary mentality of seeing things very cynical. We see things
half empty or think the Tele-tubbies are all gay. It's sad we are all programmed like
this because of the contemporary comedies we watch like the Simpsons and Family guy or anything
else which is essentially disfunctional comedy where we see everything funny that is not
wholesome and point fingers at things which are pure.
We are in a generation of deconstruction. Destroy everyhting that is beautiful or meaningful
and waste all our resources while we are at it.

Most of us proabably grew up in the 80's and were raised with all these good natured
shows (cartoons and sitcoms although they were out for the green with their toy lines and
merchandise). They all still gave us a great message. Now we see things through those same 8-year old
eyes yet we are almost expected to react in the opposite way that we naturally feel.

It's just a trend like everything else. Personalities can also be trendy and that is what you are getting
in this reaction.

My 2 cents.

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Yes quince thought he was scoring points and bonding with his lady by "loving" everything she said and looked like a doofus for not actually listening to what she was saying which she suspected all along but had to elicit in public to make it clear they were not a good look.

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I am formerly known as Hillieboliday.....Member since May 2006:

No.....most of us probably did not grow up in the 80's. There are quite a few, including myself.....who came long before your precious 80's arrived.

Being in defense of, or wary of pedophilia...whether it is inferred or defintely confirmed.....is not a fault!

The despicable sin and crime of pedophilia is on the rise in our sick society, and those of us who care about protecting our children so they can have a normal, natural childhood; had better be on constant guard. If a person is in my immediate presence and makes a comment whether in jest or seriousness about something questionable against children.....I WILL DEFINITELY ADDRESS THEM!


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I laughed out loud and said what the hell at that scene because it was so out of the blue. I don't think he is a pedophile i think he just says some random stuff sometimes.

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Pedophile? wow! My question is why would your mind even take you there to that thought. There is nothing about Quince that suggest that he is a pedophile. I think he's a little simple and weak but a pedophile no way.

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Ok, I guess my mind's in the gutter or something, too, because I just watched this with my wife last night (she LOVES this movie) and I thought the same thing. I fully expected him to follow it up with something like, "Not like THAT!" After his wife shot him that if-looks-could-kill glance, he didn't say anything. I thought that was just weird.

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The part in question is actually preceded by Bill saying "When my daughters were little girls..."

This, as a previous post stated, links up with a former iteration of Quince after Allison mentioned keychains, and if they were too boring; Quince offered up "I love keychains".

The "I love little girls" is not meant to hint at him being a paedophile, but rather to hint at the fact that he's a little bumbling with his thought processes and which ones make it to his mouth.

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Quince is a man that wants to make everyone around them feel good. He tries to help and do the right thing. He may not be an originator of ideas but he is a loyal though somewhat simple man.

He may not have realized that he said something dumb but I think his intent at dinner was to show he was hanging her (Alisons) every word, particularly since nobody else was. Quince and Alison are the perfect couple.

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You're putting us on, right?

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