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The kid needed hard discipline.


I loved the movie... but the kid got me out of my nerve. I understand he wanted to be a girl, but he undertook his family really low, his dad loses the job, they move to lower-class neighborhood... is it fair to consent your son's homosexuality? Wasn't Chris a good opportunity for both to get back to the straight path? I don't know, it was shocking.

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There's a difference between being trapped in the wrong body and being homosexual. Not that there's anything wrong with be a homosexual in the first place. His family didn't move, nor his father lose his job because of Ludo. It was the people around the family and their intolerance. I'm quite sure he didn't wake up one morning and decide to ruin his families life. That's what the attempted suicide was about, he thought it was his fault and in a misguided way he was trying to make it better. You're right though, it is shocking. Shocking that society demands we fit into neat little boxes so much so that when any deviation occurs the reaction is often grossly negative and too many times permanently damaging to the individual.

Monkey!...I mean Dog!

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Why is it ludicrous to treat someone how they want to be treated? I think that it's common politness.
...I think that you're confused between the terms transgendered(someone who is transcending gender) and transexual(someone who is changing their gender). Saying that "EVERYONE in this entire world wants to fit into their own neat little box" is a gross generalization. I also think that people who actually know thier identity and understand what it means also know that such a thing can't be placed in a box-neat or otherwise.
Thoughts?
Monkey!...I mean Dog!

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We must treat men like men and women like women, because everyone knows that men are rough, tough, strong people that like beer and women, and women are gentle delicate creatures that love peace and fluffy bunnies.

How dare we treat women like men!? How dare we treat men like women?! That's like saying that it's okay for women to vote or something.

-Joy
"People don't want to be fixed. They want to be loved."

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Applause!

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Perfectly put, Holden Caulfield-1, perfectly put.

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I agree ^.^

But this was an excellent movie.

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I agree too
"Your Prettyful and more reasons that I love you so much and speical to me"

(Thomas Jost to me)

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I enjoyed the movie and I also agree with the indictment on the shabby behavior by Ludo's neighbors. But if you think that bigotry and intolerance are the sole and exclusive property of middle-class suburbia, then you are dead wrong. There is as much bigotry and intolerance among the working-class and the poor class living in the ghetto or in the barrio as there is in the middle and upper classes living in suburbia. There are bigots everywhere. I've lived in both places and I can tell you that a**holes know no boundaries!

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Because kids don't understand that "people are *beep* until they get older.

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In a way, the parents could have pressed charges against the district for trying to expel their son. It is after all on the borderline of harrassment.

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Boy, are you ignorant. Homosexuality and transsexuality isn't the same thing. It's because of assh*les like you that as a FTM transsexual, people seem to believe that I'm a lesbian when I'm actually a straight guy.

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Same here! I get the *beep* taken out of me at school cause i have short hair and i like to kiss girls. Its hard being the only guy at an all girl's school. Because I don't fit into that "neat little box" I suffer because of the biggots that surround me on a daily basis.
If people would treat you as who you are, not who they see you as AND ACCEPT THAT NOT EVERYONE IS HAPPY AS WHAT THEY WERE BORN AS, there wouldn't be problems like we see in the movie.

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I want to toss my support in here, too. I have it easier than you, though -- people think I'm a straight girl instead of a gay guy. It still freakin' sucks to be thought of and purposely addressed as the wrong thing, but at least in my case what I'm being called is "socially acceptable." :-\

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They tried that. Amzingly... it didn't work...

"I am aware of the work of Pablo Neruda!" - Bart Simpson

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So you're saying that if a person ever feels different than other people, thinks something out of the ordinary... feels extreme emotional pain at living the lie that people expect you to live... you think it's perfectly natural for the person to just suck it up, suffer, so as to make everyone else happy?

I'm sorry, but your attitude is shocking and sickening.

-Joy
"People don't want to be fixed. They want to be loved."

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