> Read the history book, you dumb, fat, ignorant, simple-minded Americans.
You should read them yourself, and mind you not the "official" history of Chinese empires which are very unreliable when the borders of their territories are concerned. The Ming and Qing dynasties claiming that they controlled Tibet, or considering Tibet as their subject, were solely formalities-based fictions addressed for the Chinese (Han) people. On the Tibetan side they never recognized that, nor that China has ever actually put Tibet under its control before 1951.
I mean, according to the official history of the Ming dynasty, not only Tibet but also Japan was a subject of Ming--which of course was not true at all. The truth was that Japan needed to establish an official trade treaty with Ming, and the Ming emperors lied to themselves that it meant Japan being their subject. The arrogant hypocrisy of the Chinese Empires required that they could never enter in a diplomatic relation in equality with other nations. The others needed to be either their subjects or their enemies--only in formality that was only valid to the Han Chinese. It's about time you guys grow out of that false notion, and becoming more civilized.
And that doesn't change at all the fact that Tibetans are different from the Hans, the Chinese majority, their rights as minority indigenous people should be protected, not to forget that their basic human rights like the freedom of faith and expression should be protected (or for all citizens of the PRC, for that matters).
On the other hand, the Emperors of the Qing dynasty were not "Chinese" but Manchurian, and to them the Dalai Lama was their religious masters, since their official religion was the Gelug school of the Tibetan Buddhism, with the Dalai Lama as the highest priest. So do you want to say that China should be part of Mongolia, or being under Manchurian rule?
By the way the so-called "ruling" was in religious term nothing more than the followers fulfilling their duties to protect the Lama that they followed and respected.
> What does the US feel when Hawaii or Alaska wants to separate from the States.
Read the American constitution; the United States is a Union and each state has the right to leave the Union when the people of that state decides so.
And so far neither Hawaii nor Alaska are making moves for their independence. So think about why the Tibetans want their freedom from the PRC (actually, what the majority is asking is nothing more than a meaningful autonomy with their human rights respected).
Read this again;
You certainly lack any understanding of what is happening in and about Tibet. Even the late Panchen Lama who stayed under the Chinese rule and had even become an important government official criticized severely the way Tibet has been ruled. There has been massacres, temples destroyed (about 95 % of religious institutions that existed before the Chinese invasions are either destroyed or severely damaged), lands confiscated from the people, tortures, emprisonements which are even illegal under the Chinese law, bribes, governmental corruptions, starvations, forced abortions, etc.
You must be very stupid and blind if you think the Tibetans don't need to be treated better than the way PRC is doing now.
> Tibet was reclaimed by CHina in 1951 and we sent a large number of people there for guidance and adminsitration.
When the tibetan people didn't ask for their "guidance," and as for the "administration," who want to have such corrupted and crooked, badly-organized bureaucracy? That's another problem about the PRC's ruling of Tibet; if the Tibetans were given the autonomy that the PRC officially claims, there wouldn't have been the problems that exist now. The Dalai Lama would have stayed peacefully in Tibet and continued to work with Mao and his successors as he initially has decided. Unortunately, it was the PRC and the party who broke nearly every single promises they made.
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mavrick721
15 years ago
"What does the US feel when Hawaii or Alaska wants to separate from the States."
Amen Conductor
and Private Sam in American we have a Democratic Republic or reprsentative democracy (you know free speech, stuff like that. You guys in China should give it try, this union and democracy been working out great for us since the mid 1700's) and people in Hawaii and Alaska voted to be part of the United States. (I know Voting is a new word for you guys but stuck with me)
Did people in Tibet voted to be part of China? nope didn't think so
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