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the worst jane eyre adaptation ive seen


Im sorry, but ive seen a few and this was absolutely the worst. with all the others i found at least a few things i enjoyed and were close to the book but this was just awful in my opinion. ive seen the 1944 version with Orson Welles and Joan Fontaine, the 73 version with Sorcha Cusack and Michael Jayston, the 83 version with Zelah Clarke and Tomothy Dalton, the 96 version with Charlotte Gainsborg and William Hurt and the new series with Ruth Wilson and Toby Stephens. Previously i felt the 96 one was the worst, it had some good moments but there was just no passion. The best one i felt was the new one 2006 which has overtaken the 73 version in my list of the best!
This version with Samantha Morton and Ciaron Hinds was so disapointing, i felt as i really think Samanatha Morton could have made a fantastic Jane. But why was Ciaron forever screaming at the top of his lungs and just acting like an ogre. That is not Mr Rochester, aside from that they messed around with the story far too much.
Does anyone else agree or is this some people's favourite adaptation? Im just curious as to what people liked about this version.

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This is the first one I saw and I loved it, and I still do after seeing 3 more versions. I think Samantha and Ciaron has the best chemistry actually and I think they seem to love eachother the most than the other. I love it!

Cameron:"You asked me why I like you. You're abrasive and rude,
but I figured everything you do, you do it to help people.
But I was wrong. You do it because it's right. There are only
two ways I can deal with things. One is in my control.
That's to leave. Goodbye, House." - Role Model, House MD

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really? it didnt seem like they had any chemsitry to me, because he just barked at aher all the time! but thanks for answering!

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I do agree. I found it laughable at best, offensive at worst.

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oh good, im glad im not the only one! it was offensive i thought that they didnt include Jane receiveing her independence, in terms of the money she receives.

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I love Ciaran Hinds as Rochester, always have. I have watched this one countless times since it first aired 9 years ago and it is one of my favourites. Yes, the story was cut somewhat but then they only had two hours and most of the time I only have a couple of hours to spare anyway, when I just fancy a little 'Jane Eyre' indulgance so it suits me fine! lol. In fact the only Rochester I dont like out of all those versions I have( Hinds, Scott, Jayston, Stephens, Dalton, Welles and Hurt) Is William Hurt...I found his casting just beggered belief.

"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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Hurt was totally passionless i felt...there was no relationship devlopment so u never really understood how or why they fell in love unless u read the book.

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Yes Lozcat2, 'Passionless' is most definately how Hurt seems to me too and a bit 'wet'! I was most upset when I heard of his casting and sadly (unlike Toby) he didnt prove me wrong. Now with Ciaran, it's his passion and also his humour that I love and I felt he and Samantha had a lovely chemistry. The proposal scene always makes me cry, the parting is fabulous and again the reunion...."I could die from want of seeing your face" ahh, so wonderful!
I'm sorry you didnt like this version :( but we all have our own expectations of Rochester, I suppose. The one thing we can count on not disappointing us, is curling up for a quiet hour with the book! :)

"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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absolutely. nothing really compares to reading the book, although many versions have come close in places.if we mashed them all together maybe we'd get a perfect version,but then again im sure we would still want more....i did like samantha morton as jane, i just found Ciaron Hinds notmy idea of rochester at all, although he did have more 'passion'or prehaps 'rage'(!) than Hurt, i still found that version preferable...but im gladweall have such differing opinions otherwise these boardswould be very boring!!

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I find it fascinating to read what makes everyone else tick about a story we all love. We do have such different ideas and it does make for some great conversation! Which is your most favourite adaptation?


"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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I think when they meet again is the best scene. I always cry when I watch that

I must say that I'm not that fond of the book actually...don't hurt me!

Cameron:"You asked me why I like you. You're abrasive and rude,
but I figured everything you do, you do it to help people.
But I was wrong. You do it because it's right. There are only
two ways I can deal with things. One is in my control.
That's to leave. Goodbye, House." - House MD, Role Model

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im kind of in shock sanda!!! but as we've just said everyone is entitled to their opinion. <takes deep breaths!>

My favourite adaptation was the 1973 version with Sorcha Cusack and Michael Jayston which was very true to the book as was the 83 version with Zelah Clarke and Timothy Dlaton (although i didnt like her as Jane) but now my favourite has become the new version with Ruth Wilson and Toby Stephens i thought it was fantastic and the chemistry and casting spot on!

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Sanda???

Cameron:"You asked me why I like you. You're abrasive and rude,
but I figured everything you do, you do it to help people.
But I was wrong. You do it because it's right. There are only
two ways I can deal with things. One is in my control.
That's to leave. Goodbye, House." - House MD, Role Model

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"Sanda??? "


apologies sanna! xx

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Zelah Clarke totally spoils that for me too, Lozcat2. But Timothy is such a delight that I can just about manage to over look her. I dont like Sorcha Cusack either, sorry - too wide eyed for me!lol My favourites are Orson Welles, Ciaran Hinds & now Toby Stephens versions. There something different about each one that I love and I really cant pick one to be my absolute favourite.


"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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I love the line "No doubt even Pilot got a letter!" from him. :D I love Ciaran Hinds's Rochester. He may have been a bit brash and rude at times, but he was so passionate in those scenes with Jane you could tell he truly loved her.

"You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel."---Homer Simpson

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Yeah, I love that scene when she comes back from her vacasion(spelling???
"I'm so pleased that my distress(I think that's the word he uses) amuses you!"

Cameron:"You asked me why I like you. You're abrasive and rude,
but I figured everything you do, you do it to help people.
But I was wrong. You do it because it's right. There are only
two ways I can deal with things. One is in my control.
That's to leave. Goodbye, House." - House MD, Role Model

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I think he looks so gorgeous in that scene, sanna. When he's sat up on that wall...
"I wonder if you could explain to me the concept of the 28 day week?!!" He makes me weak at the knees

"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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Oh yes xxcherylannxx - He always sweeps me off my feet in those scenes, such passion - I find him totally irresitable!

"You'll never get behind the counter, Svend. You know why? You sweat too much. Svend Sweat!"

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charlotte gainsbourg was in in the 1996 film version not the 1997 tv version, but i quite liked her as Jane,although i think she was lacking in the passion needed. she looked right.

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Anna Paquin was alright really and they did a good job of Lowood i thought

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I've seen the version with Orson Well, and I have the ones with William Hurt and the 70 version. I've only seen a clip of this (the scene when Jane's going to leave) and Mr. Rochester scared me. He threw Jane's bag, pulled her around roughly,and barked at her like she wasn't human.

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This is the version that made me read the book!!! I love it. I loved it so much and there was so much passion in it that the same night I started the novel. I find Ciaran Hinds an absolutely amazing Rochester, I fell in love with his character while I was watching.
However I saw the film a some years ago and then again last year, but it's only now that I'm studying the novel in English lit class and have come to know it nearly by heart :) so I can't remember how accurate this version was and I suspect it wasn't very. But nevertheless it's the only movie that ever determined me to read the book it was based on (usually it's the other way round). And now I'd do anything to find it on DVD but all I can find is the damn Zeffirelli one.
I just saw the version with William Hurt this evening and I was extremely disappointed. It's like the two main characters have nothing to do with each other, there was absoltely no chemistry between them, no passion. William Hurt although a good actor is a terrible Rochester. Not to metion the vital parts that were left out and the lines of the characters that were sometimes exactly like in the book but taken out of context so they didn't relate to each other.
The only thing I liked about it was the great landscape and colours. Other than that I just felt like screming: "That's not how it should have been!"
I saw the one with Toby Stephens on BBC and I liked it. The main criticisms would be that he's too handsome for Rochester (but he is very good and charming and overall suitable) and that St John Rivers is absolutely horrible - he was supposed to be a splendid Apollo and with a strong and in some respects admirable personality (even though icy and stern) but instead he is nothing of the sort, makes u want to fall asleep and makes Jane's dilemma nonexistent - why on earth should she want to stay with him? I had things to say about other inaccuracies but I'm afraid I'm turning overperfectionist now when the novel's so fresh in my mind and I'm analyzing its every nuance. Oh and Ruth Wilson is a great actress, she really conveyed emotion, unlike Charlotte Gainsbourg who had the exact same expression when she was supposed to be near tears and when she was totally indifferent.
I've deviated from the subject a bit...the thing is this 1997 adaptation has remained in my mind as a film very dear to me and I know I might be idealising it because I can't remember it perfectly but I do remember the general feeling it conveyed, I remember i loved Ciaran in it (twice) and I know that the love I have for Jane Eyre was kindled by this film!

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i read the book when i was 8 and hadnt ever seen a version of it before but personally if i'd seen this version it wouldnt have made me want to read the book, but thats just my opinion. I still say Samantha Morton could have been a fantastic Jane

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Well.

That wasn't as bad as I thought. Although I do agree that Hinds' performance could have benefited from being reared in.

The youtube excerpts were, thankfully, the worst of the lot, and he was actually better than what I expected. I think the problem , no my problem with Rochester is that in today's day and age he seems so antedeluvian. Why couldn't he have divorced his wife, for crippes sake? It's not as if he was Catholic and all.

The worst adaptation I saw so far had been the George C. Scott version. Totally ruined the book for me for years.


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He couldn't divorce Bertha because the law won't allow it - you can't divorce your insane spouse. So he was well and truly trapped in that hellish marriage.

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personally i thought the Orson Welles version was by far the worst. hated that movie

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I love Ciaran Hinds as an actor, but I felt that he barked too much as Mr. Rochester.

This version, while still enjoyable to me, lacked passion. It kind of reminded me of how I interpreted the novel when I first read it at 14. I saw Mr. Rochester as an angry brute who screamed all the time. When I was 14 I thought, heck, why doesn't she choose the handsome St. John?

Now, at 25, I've read the novel a few more times since then, and my understanding of it has matured a bit. I read the novel now and notice the wit and sarcasm permeating the pages, as well as the flirtations between Jane and Rochester. I could see more of their connecting of souls. Plus, I don't think Mr Rochester is as loud and boisterous as some might think at first glance. He is outgoing, and he is popular as well as funny. Sometimes, in these adapations I think people forget that aspect of him.

But finally, in the new 2006 version, an actor finally understood and captured that essence of Rochester that is usually ignored. So, in my mind Toby Stephens is the best Rochester I've seen. I don't see how anyone can top him now.

The 2006 version reminds me of how I understood the novel once I matured a little. It really captured the spirit of it.

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I'm sure this topic has been done to death, but as a confirmed Ciaran Hinds lover, and a devotee of British literature on screen, I have to weigh in.

Although Hinds's Rochester make seem strident and rough, you feel his passion, his anger at his circumstances and that a youthful mistake, in his society, can cost him any future happiness with a virtuous woman. I felt the chemistry and I have seem almost every version except the Welles one. I also loved him in Ivanhoe - I felt his need for Rebecca, and that it overcame his scruples, and made him go against his order - but finally redeeming himself at the end.

And then there was Persuasion - of all the versions I've seen (and I've seen every verion of every Jane Austen book), I loved his the best - again for the barely, repeat, barely suppressed emotion simmering below the surface. That's what he does best - simmer like pasta until it overflows the pot. He isn't beautiful but he is what the French call "la belle laide", or "the ugly beauty."

Movies/TV adaptations aren't books - they can't include everything and often leave out what readers think are crucial sections - but what they are making is a work unto itself - trying if possible to adhere to the essence of the story - in this case his frustration and her moral dilemna that was so strong it almost cost her her life. As a reader and collector of books, and as a movie afficionado and collector, I find both "genres" to be wonderful, but apples and oranges. And I loved this version (although Timothy Dalton was a close second).

Nuf said.

CZ (if you get the reference 20 points)

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"Movies/TV adaptations aren't books - they can't include everything and often leave out what readers think are crucial sections"

I respectfully disagree with this. I think movies and TV adaptations should adhere as closely to the book as possible. If they can't fit everything into the time allotted, they either make more time or find a new project. What bothered me most about this movie is they cut perfectly good stuff to make up scenes and dialogue. That just doesn't fly with me. It was a film based on the bare bones of "Jane Eyre," the same way certain movies are based on Shakespeare's plays but at least don't assume the title. I was especially disappointed with the way they portrayed Rochester's relationship with Adele and how Jane quickly decides what to do when the marriage is called off when, really, she agonizes over the decision.

The casting is interesting. I feel Samantha Morton's Jane is too insubordinate and defiant to be convincing (Jane is the novel is polite, submissive and ever conscious of her rank), but Ciaran Hinds does simmer nicely. Actually, I thought the best performance came from Gemma Jones, who plays the kindly Mrs. Fairfax.

That's just my $0.02, though. :-)

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Yellow M&M

I have seen every version of Jane Eyre except the '73 Version and i have to say that the '83 Version with Zelah Clarke and Timothy Dalton was by far the best one. It is almost word for word with the book, and the acting was just wonderful! Dalton was a little too good looking but his acting overshadowed this and you really believed he was Rochester.
That being said: This version with Ciaran Hinds and Samantha Morton was passable. It wasn't the worst (that would be the '96 version)and it was not the worst. There were certain parts of this version that i just loved, especially the ending. Where Rochester just broke down crying because he could not believe that Jane had returned, and he could not see her face. Great! No other version has that. I agree though that Ciaran Hinds screamed too much throughout the movie. There was no sardonic wit, or sarcastic comments, no understated interplay between Jane and Rochester. They also took great licence with the overall story. a lot was cut out ( i guess for time) and parts were changed.
Worth watching, but not true to the book.

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Time for me to chime in :-p . I have seen every version & my favorite version is the 1996 one staring Charlotte Gainsbourg, fallowed by the 1944 Orson Welles one. I love both of those versions to death.

Charlotte Gainsbourg to me is the perfect Jane, quiet, well mannered, but also her own woman with a strong will, intelligence, wisdom, talent for the arts, & love for the people around her like Adel, Fairfax, & Rochester. To me there is no other Jane then Gainsbourg.

Orson Welles was amazing as Rochester & was my favorite Rochester, he had all the passion, strength, & troubled past of Rochester. The only thing that I felt was sort of off was he seemed a bit too pretty to be Rochester, to me Rochester is a bit more scruffy looking.

For me the worst adaptations are 1997 staring Ciarán Hinds, It is the one I like least, I could not feel anything but anger from Rochester as played by Ciaran, & the second to worst (not as bad) is the 2001 one staring Ruth Wilson.

Ciaran as said was far too mean & yelling to me, he had no passion & only hatred do to his past. He did not have that passion for life nor love of Jane that I expect to see from Rochester. Yes it is true that in the 1996 one William Hurt did not have much passion either, & thus why Hurt is not my favorite Rochester, but at least Hurt had some humor, could smile, joke, laugh, & was kind; things that Ciaran did not do, & was too angry & unloving to do, & thus I did not like Ciaran's portrayal at all. I do however think that Samantha Morton did a lovely job as Jane, she is within my top four Janes.

The 2006 one is my second to least favorite one because it was too sexual for me, I did not like that, Wilson's Jane came out almost as a harlot, I was very upset by that, it was completely a shock, & completely not my Jane, my Jane being Gainsbourg is so full of self control, & restrain, she would never let herself do that stuff before marriage, it would be a crime. The sexual stuff aside I felt that Ruth looked very much like Jane & if the sexual parts are ignored she played Jane very well, she was proper (if we ignore those aforementioned moments) & mostly in self control, smart, loving, caring, & at the times when she was supposed to break down & cry her heart out over Rochester, she did so perfectly giving it the passion & emotion that Jane, or any woman would give, so I have mixed feeling about Wilson's portrayal & the 2006 Jane Eyre. Now as for Toby Stephens' Rochester, I loved his performance, yes it is wrong in my mind for Jane to be sexual, but for Rochester that fits him quite nicely, although I would personally have had him more restrained as well as he had so many bad experiences in the past I would doubt he would want to rush into a relationship so quick & foolishly again, that he would be wherry of fallowing his heart & of loving again, because of how love had betrayed him before. But once again putting that aside, I loved his Rochester, probably my second favorite Rochester after Orson Welles, Toby just had him down so perfectly (Putting the sexualness aside of course). So as you can see for me the 2006 one was a mixed bag that I both like, but at the same time hate, & thus it is one of my least favorites right before the 1997 Ciaran one.

All of the other ones that I have not spoken of were to me average, not bad, but not good, but all in all forgettable.

Also I would like to note that in my two favorites 1996 & 1944 I love how well they both do the Lowood part. In the 1996 one they do a nice job of showing Jane & Halan's friendship, & the poor condition of the girls. However the 1944 one of course tops that by leaps & bounds, the headmaster opening the windows after the doctor told him to keep them closed, & then after cutting Halan's hair making both her & Jane walk out in the rain in circles all night holding irons, with signs on them saying Vain & Rebellious, & thus worsening Halan's condition to the point that she cannot recover. I just loved that, I mean he was truly evil in that version, it makes you really hurt for Jane & the other girls to think what they must have gone through all of those years, & how many of the other girls must have died, & how strong Jane must have been to servive all of that. It was just amazing for me.

Also worth noting is that I love the Paul Gordon & John Caird stage musical version of Jane Eyre, for me it is better then any of the films, & really brings out all of the passion, fears, pain, horror, sadness, mystery, & love of the book nicely, & it is incredibly faithful to the book showing lots of scenes that are left out of most of the film adaptations. So I highly recommend that to anyone who loves Jane Eyre :-) .

& of course nothing beats the original, the book, so if anyone loves any of the films or the musical, they should get their hands on a copy of the book & read it :-) .

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Having watched most of the versions of Jane Eyre produced to date, I cannot in good conscience recommend this one. The screenplay skips many of the finer points of the novel or touches on them so briefly as not to have been there at all. The scenery, costumes, music & sets are all adequate but it is the acting that I find the most unsatisfactory aspects of the film. Ciaran Hinds, a really wonderful actor - most of the time - but in Jane Eyre, he is not in touch with the material as written. One never gets the impression of a tortured soul, just an angry, grousing & petulant master, who initially treats Jane with apparent scorn. His character appears to be ranting most of the time - and his supposed ardent love for Jane does not ring true. Samantha Morton is also a good actress, but she comes off incredibly headstrong & vocal - two characteristics not readily on display in the 1800's. Indeed her mannerisms & tone of voice remind me more of today’s teens, rather than a woman of low birth of the time. And in addition, she is too good looking for the role, even with that severe hairdo. The other big problem with this production, was that it felt forced & hurried, skipping over important details & information necessary to the story. Also some of the dialogue was changed as to be totally different than the book hence, it changes the way it is interpreted by the characters themselves. The screenwriter should be ashamed, rewriting so much with not a whit of sense of continuity to the book, & the changed spoken words do not sound the way they really spoke in that era, based on other books I have read. Someday, perhaps, they will make a version of Jane Eyre that is loyal to the book, developing the characters that not only look similar to their descriptions, but also talk & act as nineteenth century people did/should. For now, the Welles/Fontaine or Dalton/Clarke versions will have to do. This one missed so much & I had high hopes because of Hinds, but maybe next time.


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