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Poison sprayed on the Minivan's Door Latch

posted 16 years ago by Xclibur2001
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The Jackal sprayed something very highly toxic on his Minivan's door latch because he knew there were some vandals persuing him, but What kind of poison would cause someone to foam from the mouth and then die instantly just by simply touching it on a vehicle's door latch??????????

I don't believe this to be true...................But does a poison that lethal exist???????

BTW...............Why were those Car Jackers persuing the Jackal??????? Or was it just a coincidence that some bad guys wanted to jack our main villain's minivan or his belongings inside the minivan.

[–] joyelectricity 16 years ago

I saw a movie years before I saw the Jackal where they used a contact poison very similar to this movie. I forget the name of the movie but I remember someone dieing a very similar death in that movie. The person or bad guy I think it was was chasing if I remember correctly some super intelligent kids or something like that cause they had some secret information on a cd or something and they had a spray like the jackals and the person touched it and died soon afterward. They were convulsing and foaming up at the mouth too.

Yeah I never did understand why car jackers were chasing him and why he couldn't just off them with a knife or pistol or something. I guess it was just an excuse to use the poison, I think the lady that made his fake passports mentioned what chemical it was that causes similar problems she had to use it to make the passports or something. If I remember correctly I think it was supposed to be hydrofluoric acid but that probably wouldn't cause the same effects. Maybe not kill you on contact, (inhalation much more deadly) if you have chance to wash it off or unless someone poured a bunch of it on your forehead I'm no chemist tho so I'm not sure.

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[–] McTaffity 15 years ago

"The Internecine Project" included a similar device to kill James Coburn (actually impregnated in the paper of a message telling him he was about to die), that film was made in 1974 so the idea has been around for a while even if no posion of this type exists.

[–] delt_ 16 years ago

Kind of reminds me of the nerve-gas weapons in "the rock".

[–] adam-sithlord 16 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_(nerve_agent)

[–] aaronclawrence 15 years ago

There are several nerve agents that will kill on contact, VX was one mentioned above, others like Sarin and Tabun. Not sure whether they cause you to foam at the mouth (thats probably just hollywood) but they do kill you very fast because they interfere with the nervous system.

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[–] coolluvru1976 15 years ago

if you read up on VX gas, it doesnt kill you instantly like it does in the movie "the rock" it takes several days to kill you instead of 30seconds. Sarin gas, in a heavy dose can kill you in a short amount of time, IE tokyo subway incident.

As far as i know, nothing in a small dose like shown in the movie could kill you that quickly unless it was something venomous like snake poison, or jellyfish posion like someone mention'd. but hey its a movie, but it does make you think.

[–] niceredwine 11 years ago

that is not correct. VX in the right dosage will kill you within minutes by asphyxiation. it will shutdown your muscles and you will not be able to breath.

the poison in the movie acts too quick, but nevertheless there are poisons that will kill you in minutes.

[–] roscoeren 15 years ago

Yes, that's quite....!

Suggest all killers in movies use this instead of other weapons.~

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[–] emeryd 15 years ago

There are poisons that exist that are that deadly. The poison on some frog's skins are used on poison darts that cause death that fast. I think they are called brachiotoxins. Likely it's supposed to be something like that with some sort of accelerant to help it enter the skin faster.

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[–] AmarR123 15 years ago

Stop mentioning VX.

Even in it's most potent aerosol form, inhaled directly through the nose VX takes about 2 minutes to actually incapacitate a person (by paralysing them), with about 4 minutes being a realistic time of death, when your lung simply seize up.

Simply touching liquid VX would not kill you in under 10 seconds, not enough exposure.

There's almost no chemical agent, save for certain concentrations of cyanide or the Russian "NOVICHOK" agents that can incapacitate a person that quickly, and even then death takes much longer.

Organic neurotoxins based on animal poisons wouldn't work either. They're very hard to weaponize. No military in the world synthesises them to begin with so you'd need to get a sample from a frog or pufferfish for example, yourself. Which could prove a little difficult.
Secondly, they're organic agents not chemicals created in a Lab. They're unstable and deteriorate very quickly in the wrong conditions (humidity, temperature, light, etc.) which affects potency.

You can't just get some blowfish toxins, mix them up with an aerosol propellent and stick them in a can and then spray it on something.
It doesn't work that way. It'd be far too diluted to have any effect.
Most of those neurotoxins kill through injection (like a Cobra's bite) or direct surface contact.

It's just another Hollywood myth folks.

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