Dewey defamation


Does it matter to anyone that the historic character of Thomas Dewey is libeled in this movie, asserting that he was corrupted by gangsters? In truth, of course, Dewey risked his life as a racket-busting prosecutor in the NYC of the 1930s, and while it is true that he parlayed that reputation into the governorship of NY, and subsequently two runs for the presidency, there is no evidence whatsoever that he was ever bribed by anyone anywhere under any circumstances. This is a shameful and sleazy act by the makers of 'Hoodlum' to sensationalize their plot and posthumously defame a distinguished public servant.

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I noticed the same thing. When I saw it for the first time I immediately went to Wikipedia to check it out. It's a weird addition to the script, to say the least.

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A lot of speculation about why Dewey was able to survive during that era, some people felt he very selective about what mobsters he prosecuted and what ones he protected. History isn't just what you learn in history books and in wikipedia for that matter. You didn't accend to the level of power that Dewey did without having some "unholy" alliances.

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History books have exposed many of the corrupt politicians who did take bribes, such as former New York mayor Jimmy Walker. Thomas Dewey actually did prosecute Dutch Schultz, but a rigged jury found Dutch not guilty. Dewey didn't quit, however, and came after Dutch so aggressively that the gangster planned to murder Dewey. Lucky Luciano and the commission rejected the idea, for if a New York D.A. was killed, the federal government would wage all out war on the Mafia (plus as Mario Puzo wrote in the Godfather "a lot of hoodlums would be killed 'resisting arrest' and who was going to do anything about that?") Schultz stormed out of the commission meeting promising to kill Dewey with or without permission. That was the reason Dutch Schultz was killed, not because of an elaborate scheme set up by Bumpy Johnston.

Tom Dewey also pursued the boss of all bosses, Lucky Luciano and convicted him of being a pimp. Luciano was sent to prison; he was released for his assisting the U.S. government during the war, but was later deported.

There has never been a shred of evidence that Tom Dewey ever accepted bribes from gangsters, or formed any alliances with them.

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A lot of speculation about why Dewey was able to survive during that era, some people felt he very selective about what mobsters he prosecuted and what ones he protected. History isn't just what you learn in history books and in wikipedia for that matter. You didn't accend to the level of power that Dewey did without having some "unholy" alliances.

Well now, that makes him sound a lot like Vic Mackey, of "The Shield." Of course there isn't any historical evidence of him doing such things. Seems like mostly Hollywood fantasy, epically involving Schultz, but at the same time my life has taught me that most successful people have their hands dirty somewhere.

But no matter what, the film did not commit defamation of character in the legal sense. Once a person has died they loose their right to sure for defamation or slander; and that does include their surviving family as well. That's also why Oliver Stone's JFK drags several probably innocent people through the mud (hello Clay Shaw) while changing the names of people who were still alive in 1991.

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The jury that acquitted Schultz in Malone, Ny was not rigged. Farmers take their excess grains and convert it into alcohol. That has gone on for centuries. Also Malone being close to the Canadian border much of the liquor was smuggled through Canada and many people made extra money. Prosecuting Schultz for bootlegging would be the equivalent of prosecuting someone for buying a lottery ticket--everybody was doing it.

Thomas Dewey had a spotless reputation in his time. He inspired many a young man to go into the profession of Law. Including retiring Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau who is 91 years old. Some say that the only reason that Dewey lost the Presidency to Truman in 1948 was because he had a moustache(Think Adolph Hitler). and also there was some dealings between the Truman administration, the United Nations and Jewish groups in New york to support a Jewish State of Israel. I have read that that weaked some of Deweys support and resources in New york.

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'The Mafia Encyclopedia' has an interesting entry on Mr. Dewey.

Short Cut, Draw Blood

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IT REALLY MADE ME SAD THE WAY THE MOVIE PORTRAYS A REAL HERO OF MINE THOMAS DEWEY!IN FACT LUCKY LUCIANO RESPECTED THOMAS DEWEY DUTCH SCHULTZ HATED HIM!

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