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Jude Law question.......BIG SPOILER!!!!!!!


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When Jude Law puts himself in that incination machine, he just switched it on and let himself get burned alive? who the hell does this? I know he didn't want to leave any evidence of his existence but couldn't he set a timer or something, give himself some pills, pass out and THEN the machine would kick in. I really never understood how someone can do that.

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This is one of my favorite movies. I just rewatched again and had the same issue.

I think the movie is pretty perfect. But it does bother me that there is no sign of Jude Law's/Jerome's horrific and painful death by fire (which honestly there would have been -- paraplegia not withstanding).

I took this as Niccol's determination to show that the movie was about our higher selves, our best selves.

Yet -- STILL -- I still think he could have shown Jude's character swallowing some meds and getting woozy for a few seconds and only THEN hitting the switch at the very end, for humane reasons. I mean, seriously, what a brutal and horrible end for a guy we end up caring about.

I still love the movie but I always pretend these measures in my head for poor Jerome.

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Hi. I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thought this.

No one goes out in that fashion. Too brutal.

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I know, right? <sniffle> But still. A wonderful character and an unforgettable moment.

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No one goes out in that fashion. Too brutal.


Wrong. For instance, Vietnamese Buddhist monks practiced self-immolation for various reasons. Here's a famous one from 1963: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c#/media/File:Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c_self-immolation.jpg

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Exactly.

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I think they didn't have him dull himself because he had come to terms with his situation, and faced his decision bravely. Took a lot of guts to face that with no prep. Plus, it showed how he didn't do it under the influence, but it was a clear and conscious decision.

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but couldn't he set a timer or something, give himself some pills, pass out and THEN the machine would kick in.

There's a chance something could have gone wrong.

The last time he tried to kill himself, he stepped in front of a bus and ended up in a wheelchair. He probably wanted to be really goddamn sure this time around.

Also, he doesn't care about the pain, or much at all really, he just cares about the dream. Specifically Vincent's dream, because he himself could never live up to his own dreams. Despite being born "supperior", he only ever got that silver medal (the last thing he looks at), which made him realize he would never reach the other shore/insert your own metaphor here.

He's essentially a man who just wants to die the entire time we see him, but has decided to do this one last thing before his death. Maybe it's not 100% clear to himself when we meet him, maybe it's Vincent's attitude and dream that makes him realize that he can do one great thing, get that gold medal, and the leave this world behind.

I think he's a fascinating character. Obviously clever, resourceful, kind of dickish, sad, all sorts of things. But in the end he certainly proves there's one thing he isn't, afraid.

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Until the fire started to consume him. Then, believe me, he would have said "Bloody hell, what did I do to myself?"

Roasting alive (I know it was the only way because he couldn't leave a body behind), but really???

Not feasible in my opinion. I'm glad others are replying. Makes it interesting.

Bloody good movie

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Well, it is obviously feasible. People have set themselves on fire in real life.

As for realistic for this particular character, I would disagree. I felt it's something he would do. There's a defiance in both our leads, that's part of what makes them who they are.

But seeing as they fictional characters and one is in space and the other is dead, I can't prove anything, ha ha...

Just my take on the character and how he ties into the themes of the film.

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The bus thing wasn't an accident?

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I think this is mainly because we're watching a 1997 movie with 2016 eyes.
The point (unlike today's movies) is not the actual suffering, so that scene was not meant to express agony. Really the scene shows flames start and then a fairly quick scene change. The purpose was to show that perfection, perhaps, and it's inherent burden of falling from it is not a life worth living.

I don't think the agony was a question in '97, but it is today with such violent and action driven movies as we have in 2016.

I absolutely love this movie.

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The flames were so massive that it's likely he just bleeped out. No time to feel anything.

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I could have done without that bit of visual poetry.

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Also those electricity bills are gonna be overdue, which will lead to turning off the electricity and spoiling the samples in the fridge.

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He could never accept his being second best. In his mind his body had betrayed him, he literally wanted nothing to do with his body, so he destroyed it.

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I think you are reading too much into it. He wanted to guarantee his death. If it was a matter of "wanting to destroy his body", he wouldnt have jumped in front of a bus the first time.

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