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My God This Movie Is Great


Just watched it for the first time in like 6 or 7 years and it still gets me. Especially the end. Man!

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Thank you! I always get a bit teary-eyed just before Vincent's farewell. That scene with the doctor is so moving. This is such a wonderful movie with a tremendous theme.

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Yep. Watched it again tonight. Those final scenes get me teary-eyed too--have to make sure I watch it alone, lol. Those little acts of moral rebellion make a world of difference in helping someone achieve his life's dream. This movie speaks to everyone who's ever been held back in life by pettiness, jealousy, stupid rules, and bigotry. (which is probably 99% of us)

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^ yes, well said.

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One of my favourite films of all times , an absolute masterpiece

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A masterpiece, and a truly uplifting story about the human spirit.

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Imagine you're on an intercontinental flight and that immediately after takeoff, the cabin manager makes the following announcement:

"Dear passengers, I hope you will join me in celebrating a wonderful achievement of our captain. His name is Vincent. Vincent's childhood dream was to become an airplane navigator but unfortunately he was declared unfit for the job because of his serious heart condition. True, he does occasionally have symptoms of heart disease, like shortness of breath and chest pain, yet he is certainly not the kind of person to be deterred from pursuing his dream so easily. Being quite convinced that he is up to the task and that everything would be fine Vincent decided to falsify his medical records. And indeed, with the clean bill of health readily forged and attached to his application, he smoothly managed to get the plum job and is very proud to take care of your safety today. Can we please get some applause for Vincent's accomplishment and perseverance in the face of adversity? And, by the way, keep your seat belts tightly fastened during the entire flight."

In such situation, you would clap enthusiastically and maybe shed a tear thinking about the greatness of the human spirit?
Or would you be outraged that the guy used deception and irresponsibly put other people's lives at risk to achieve his selfish goal?

(From The Routledge Companion to Philosophy and Film, 2008)

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Excellent alternative analysis.

For a lot of people, this film is the perfect distillation of human resolve. It showcases how perseverance and ambition can lend itself to greatness.

That said, it dismisses the developed societal structure that exists in the world of Gattaca. Gattaca is a refined product, building on previous technologies to perfect them in the form of human, infrastructural, and sociopolitical engineering. It operates the way it does because it disallows imperfections like Vincent to enter into the core of its world.

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"...it dismisses the developed societal structure that exists in the world of Gattaca. Gattaca is a refined product, building on previous technologies to perfect them in the form of human, infrastructural, and sociopolitical engineering."

It certainly does that but, more generally speaking, I think it does what most Hollywood films do: they tell stories from a single vantage point, and tell them so well that it's easy for us to short-circuit critical thinking and instead pat ourselves on the back for all those noble and uplifting feelings they elicit in us.
All films are propaganda.

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i totally agree, i absolutely love it too, it's a shame it is not more famous!!

10/10

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I don't think I would go as far as to say it's "great" but it is a pretty good movie.

A few things about it prevented me from pushing it over the top.

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For one thing, I didn't like seeing the real Jerome (Jude Law) take his own life at the end. I didn't see any real reason for him to do this unless he just hated coming in 2nd place and was just sad that his legs didn't work anymore. He was probably my favorite character in the movie so it was a let down in my view. I know people that are fans of this movie actually like that part, maybe there is a better explanation. Still, I would have liked to have seen a different outcome in this regards.

I didn't like the idea of Vincent having to "cheat" to make his dream come true. Sure, under his circumstances it's the only choice he had but still seemed a bit shady throughout the movie.

And if he had worked in Gattaca as a janitor, it seems like someone would have recognized him.

Titan is an odd choice. It's not habitable by humans, if they actually explained why/how that's the choice of planet/moon to go to, I missed it. Maybe someone can explain it.

And plus, if Vince really was destined to die around 30 or so, why doesn't he? I mean, it's obvious he was not in good heart health. But somehow, he can out-swim his brother who's in perfect health and make love to Irene all night long. lol...

I know they explain that DNA and genetics are not always right but still. There's several scenes in the movie when you think the guy is going to roll over and die. haha... I thought for sure he was going to die when he made love to Irene, she's so hot. lol

In addition to this, you have to be in good shape to survive space travel. All of the members of the lunar missions had to pass physicals. Vince wouldn't even survive the journey.


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Overall though, it's not a bad film, it has some rather intriguing moments in it. I'd give it about a 6.5 out of 10. It does a great job at presenting an interesting story with thrilling moments akin to what you might see in some intense spy/espionage film but it falls a little short in execution.

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I felt that the idea with Jude Law's character was that even though he had (theoretically) good genetics, his fate was determined by free will choices, starting with the choice to believe that worth is determined by genetics. As a result of that chosen belief, he makes other self-destructive choices: to throw himself in front of a car, and then to self-immolate at the end. So I thought what the movie was saying was that it isn't your genes but your free will that defines you. Likewise, Ethan Hawke's character is born with genes that are not as good, but he pushes himself.

I don't remember the details of the situation with his heart but I thought his idea with leaving was that once he was off Earth, there would be no point in making him go back. I think his self-worth was determined by outwitting those who believed he was defined by his genes. He wanted to make the statement that his life was worth something even if he didn't fall into the category of "worthwhile" that was defined by those in power. Even if he died during the space flight, I think he would have considered himself to have succeeded.

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Sounds reasonable, Iffy762.

Although, a little bit of guess work is probably going on here. I just thought the film could have done something different like maybe Law's character dies to save the life of Hawke's character, which might have been a little more intriguing. Blazing himself just seemed like it was coming out of left field.

And I see what you mean about Hawke's character. Still, going through all that only to die on the journey to Titan would seem kind of silly. But whatever. it's a movie, as usual not everything is going to be perfect.

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Yeah, I agree, his choice seemed a bit futile.

I should watch it again, maybe there were some subtle clues that might help us with some of this.

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Agreed.

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Agreed! When you get to those last few minutes and discover that the doctor knew all the time, it makes you fight back tears. Such a moving moment and a perfect ending to a superb movie!

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Yeah that was a really good moment and I think very wise about human nature. You kinda hope if we ever get to a eugenic future that there'll be people like the doctor out there.

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