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How long would it take to reach the President..??


Well, if they can pass their soul from person to person simply by touch, how long would it take to reach the President of the USA? A day maybe? Or maximum of three?? Then they could surely end all Human existence......

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I thought the same thing. Though despite what the female character said about the demons wanting to destroy mankind, I figured that time doesn't mean much to them and they are happy for now with foreplay - i.e. ruining peoples lives like Hobbes.

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Time is on their side. Yes it is.

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I bet it could reach the President from any American in three or four steps, if it happened to go through the right people. So it would have to know which ones to go through. If it didn't have any supernatural powers to figure that out, it would just have to kind of guess. In that case, it would probably take 100s.

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Whatever the right people are, one of them is surely Kevin Bacon.

People don't like to be meddled with.

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Wow how incredibly ethnocentric to think the President of the USA is the most important person in the world. He's not. Americans don't understand that the President has very little to do with their everyday lives yet they ignore local elections and only vote in presidential elections. God doesn't give a rat's behind about the President of the US. This question is irrelevant.

The people you idolize wouldn't like you.

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Nuclear launch codes.

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The president can't launch the missiles. If he tried the rest of the government and the military would not only refuse, they would remove him from office.

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That's not true. I hate to break it to you, but the President is the Commander and Chief. That means he has total control of the launch codes. Think about that next time you walk in the voting booth.

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That's not true. I hate to break it to you, but the President is the Commander and Chief. That means he has total control of the launch codes. Think about that next time you walk in the voting booth.


Thats only after the military has escalated to DEFCON 1, or some catastrophic situation in which the chain of command were severed.

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Again, that's not true. The president is the only person that can raise or lower the DEFCON level. No major military decisions can be made without the president's authorization. In the case of nuclear action, the president has total authority. Presidential powers enable him to authorize short term military campaigns, but actual articles of war have to be voted on by Congress. The goal of giving him full control of the launch codes was to shorten the reaction time in the event of a nuclear strike. Can you imagine a scenario where nuclear weapons are launched at the US, and our knucklehead Congress had to vote on what to do? The chain of command always starts with the president.

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Again, that's not true. The president is the only person that can raise or lower the DEFCON level. No major military decisions can be made without the president's authorization. In the case of nuclear action, the president has total authority. Presidential powers enable him to authorize short term military campaigns, but actual articles of war have to be voted on by Congress. The goal of giving him full control of the launch codes was to shorten the reaction time in the event of a nuclear strike. Can you imagine a scenario where nuclear weapons are launched at the US, and our knucklehead Congress had to vote on what to do? The chain of command always starts with the president.


Defense readiness conditions vary between many commands and have changed over time.

http://www.dod.gov/pubs/foi/Reading_Room/Joint_Staff/320.pdf

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I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're saying. The methods of transmitting the launch authorization have changed over time on account of advances in technology, but as I stated in my last post, the president is, and always has been, the sole decision maker when it comes to the use nuclear weapons. This has not changed. This will probably never change. I don't even know why you linked that document, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about and 98% of it is redacted.

Don't be like most IMDb users. This isn't a big deal, just admit that you were mistaken and move on.

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I'm sorry, but I don't know what you're saying. The methods of transmitting the launch authorization have changed over time on account of advances in technology, but as I stated in my last post, the president is, and always has been, the sole decision maker when it comes to the use nuclear weapons. This has not changed. This will probably never change. I don't even know why you linked that document, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about and 98% of it is redacted.


When the chain of command breaks down the president can launch, or depending on the scenario they can launch, but that is extremely limited.

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See, now I think you're just messing with me. I'm going to just move on from here because you're obviously trolling me.

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6 people. In theory everyone is 6 people away from everyone else.

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Like 5 seconds, go to a presidential speech, kill yourself then spirit into the president.

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He doesn't want to end all humans, he want to destry the good ones. All the people he posessed have some kind of dark side, thats why he could enter them by touch. He kept playing with Hobbs because he was a good person, not because he wanted to kill randomly.

X ~We are the people our parents warned us about

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