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WHY does every movie have this one stupidity?

posted 9 years ago by DaytonaBob
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EVERY FREAKING MOVIE where there are hallucinations or the "bad guys/machine/alien" create these hallucinations, They fall for it knowing full well it is a hallucination?

Take this idiot bitch who "Saw" her son and dropped everything to go get him. HOW stupid are people in EVERY MOVIE to drop everything and it always leads to death.

It was a really really bad movie anyway.

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[–] SpiltPersonality 9 years ago

I hear what you're saying, but I guess it also depends on the depth of the hallucination.

To give you an example:
What if you were hallucinating right now, and you actually weren't reading my reply, but driving your car down a busy road! In the FILM version of your life, people may say 'why is he pretending to read a forum and not drive his car'. It's because you CANNOT immerse the audience as deeply as you'd like... or rarely can. Perhaps it's the skill of the story teller that allows it to happen (rarely)

[–] debiler 9 years ago

I hear what you're saying, but I guess it also depends on the depth of the hallucination.

To give you an example:
What if you were hallucinating right now, and you actually weren't reading my reply, but driving your car down a busy road! In the FILM version of your life, people may say 'why is he pretending to read a forum and not drive his car'. It's because you CANNOT immerse the audience as deeply as you'd like... or rarely can. Perhaps it's the skill of the story teller that allows it to happen (rarely)

Good sir, you win the imdb forums for today! Please allow me to quote you whenever somebody asks that stupid question again. :)

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[–] SpiltPersonality 9 years ago

Wow, thanks :)

[–] GreatWhiteApeofBarsoom 9 years ago

The novelization actually goes into greater depth on this, telling us the Event Horizon has begun to affect Peters more deeply than the movie shows us. She's convinced the ship may have developed the power to transport him aboard and because of her deep devotion to him has to be absolutely sure the Event Horizon isn't planning to take him with it to Hell.

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[–] MrRazorz 8 years ago

Do they know full well it's a hallucination? The entity isn't projecting holograms in front of them. It's getting inside their heads and messing with their sense of reality.

[–] HellboundHero 8 years ago

Yeah, it seems to go further than merely making them see things that aren't there. It's like they're being put into sort of a dream state where they aren't thinking rationally like they would when awake. Think about Justin going to the airlock and saying "If you knew what I saw, you wouldn't stop me?" then he snaps out of it and he's like "What the hell am I doing here? Get me out!".

[–] beierfilms 8 years ago

I also see your point but one could argue that they're not JUST hallucinations but also delusions. They are two different conditions but they can sometimes come together.

At the simplest level, a hallucination is when someone experiences something that isn't really there but a delusion is when someone has a mistaken belief about an experience. So, someone experiencing just hallucination may see someone who isn't there and question the experience but someone with delusions might see a real person and decide think that this person is trying to kill them. People with schizophrenia may experience both hallucinations AND delusions and one may lead to the other.

Given that there's some kind of evil entity in this ship, it' not too crazy to think that certain characters start out simply experiencing hallucinations but eventually grow to become delusional. We see this fairly clearly in Weir as he starts out quite scientific but then starts to refer to the ship as a person as he starts to go nuts. He eventually becomes delusional, thinking the ship is somehow a conduit to his dead wife.

Given that this movie was highly cut by the studio; I've always wondered if Peters's story was better developed in the original edit. It always seemed to me that we never quite got the full depth of her guilt over leaving her son and perhaps there was a better reason why she could grow to believe in her hallucinations and become delusional.

[–] koffeenkreame41-1 8 years ago

Do they know full well it's a hallucination? The entity isn't projecting holograms in front of them. It's getting inside their heads and messing with their sense of reality.

This. That's what it was doing with her and really with all of them.

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[–] mikeyg24 8 years ago

Considering it turns out they're not hallucinating don't you think your post is a little ridiculous?

I've had a lot of sobering thoughts in my time Del Boy, it's them that started me drinking!

[–] probe_78 8 years ago

Maybe because in IRL hallucinations often provoke some kind of action from human even when one knows they are not real. Or one may question his sanity.

Few years ago I was on medication which caused hallucinations, and after that I have questioned that trope less. Also, It's easier to keep your suspence of disbelief at bay when you think that hallucinations actually are brains going bonkers.

That said, effect of hallucinations are often used as cheap tricks, and not prepared properly.

[–] BigRich 8 years ago

You sound like you never been high. If you haven't, good for you; but that means you don't know what you're talking about then if you never experienced a hallucination (same thing I tell drug counselors that have college degrees, but never took a sip, popped, smoked, etc.) Your brain can tell you that everything you're experiencing is NOT real, but your mind will not listen (or vise-versa, depending).

I'm not saying they took drugs, just pointing out the reality of a hallucination. Plus, they were in space, came out of a deep sleep, who knows what that can do to a person. It's like being in a coma.

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[–] eukodol 8 years ago

I agree it was a weak scene - she had just told the rest of the crew that she had hallucinated her son, so why would she suddenly fall for the same hallucination?

My guess is that she wasn't aware she was hallucinating until AFTER the hallucination was over. However, the captain knew he was hallucinating the burning crewman. Maybe it effects people differently.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

My guess is that she wasn't aware she was hallucinating until AFTER the hallucination was over.

Sort of like how we don't always realize we're in a dream.

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[–] wesperkins 8 years ago

Kinda like the Mattix.. I chose the blue piill.. I don't wanna know the truth bc it's too scary.

[–] mikecaprarella 8 years ago

But it supposedly wasnt just seeig things cuz he could feel the flames. And since it was that real it makes sense why peters thought the ship could transport her son there. But it was just a clone evil form of her son not the real son. So it kinda makes sense why she believed it and not wanting ther son to go to hell with the engineering part of the ship once the bombs went off so she had to make sure but i also think she was possessed a little. Cuz right before she falls when she is catching her breath why does a flash of her already dead pop on screen before she falls? I think its showing that it is possessing her against her will maybe

[–] rthomas2895 8 years ago

Whatever happened to her right there was more than hallucination. It was more like a dementia. She'd have had to snap out of it in order to know what she was doing. I say that having spent time around a person with dementia.

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