IRA


Im trying to do a survey type thing and I would appreciate it if anyone who is an IRA supporter would come forward and say so so i can get the numbers. Thank you. You will not be judged in an way shape of form, just dont be afraid to stand up for what you believe in. Try not to post anything negative though, lets keep this as nice as possible. And it doesnt matter if you are irish-american or irish.

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istickem:

"A free country is all that we want."

We've got it.


"As then, as now the Brits murder, rape, pillage our homes and women, put us men in prison for trying to promote our liberty and our freedoms."

Where and when are these murders, rapes and pillaging of our homes and women taking place please?


"All we want is the right to live our lives as free men"

We have that.


"not under the rule of the King and Queen."

Well, currently the UK is a constitutional monarchy. The Queen has no real power as such - she's just a figurehead.


"The IRA is a party of people that wants the Brit's out of our country by whatever means possible, if this means war then so be it.
LONG LIVE THE IRA"

What an extremely sad sentiment.

People like 'istickem' are the reason why any kind of relative peace in Northern Ireland is hard to achieve. Obviously an indoctrinated dinosaur.

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Why is a freedom fighter, a name I link to the UFF, interested in how many IRA followers there are????
Weird....

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I have been researching my ancestry lately and found out my greatx3 grandparents came to England from Ireland, sometime in the late 19th Century, they were Catholic, upon getting married my great grandmother converted from catholicism to methodist, which didnt go down well in the family, as society was apparantly quite bigoted back then.

Although I do not, nor have I ever done, consider myself Irish at all, I have started to embrace my ancestry and start thinking about it even more, my favourite place I have ever visited is Belfast, much more friendly than where I live in Co. Durham, I have met and befriended people on both sides in Belfast, who all have interesting stories to tell and I have never found two people tell exactly the same stories. I also have close family who live near Belfast who I love dearly.

Whenever I talk about Belfast to my friends, I always get asked what is so nice about the place, they seem to think staring down the barrel of a gun is an everyday occurence, as is getting blown up.

Although I am English, I support the N.I football team, and eventually want to move somewhere in Northern Ireland.

At the end of the day, bombs and bullets is not the answer, it never was, nor will it ever be, The IRA, INLA, RIRA, CIRA are scumbags, they are nothing more than cold blooded murderers, the UVF, UDA etc are exactly the same, I would hope in future other ways could be explored to settle this, once the next generation starts to take power I would hope the extreme views of Adams, McGuinness and Paisley can die out.

If I was organising a referendum tomorrow on the future of Northern Ireland, I would give them another option, complete independence

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I'm an IRA supporter. That's because I'm half irish and I see your point of having no irish blood and not being a supporter. Everyone seems to call them terrorists, but they are just trying to take there land of Northern Ireland back from BRITISH IMPERIALISM has taken from them. So there just protesting against british government and that seems very american to me. By the way everyone forgets HILTER killed 11 million people! Even if there was 50 IRA groups they still wouldn't approach the body count and slaughter of HITLER!



Ron Paul 2012!!!!!

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I am curious why people don't call the British Army as a terrorist organization, because it is the one who terrorize the Irish people at gun point to force them act in British interests, which is to accept the British sovereignty.

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I am an IRA supporter and in the 70'swhen I made good money,I flew to Ireland to see the island where my grandparents lived in County Down,I have been back several times since...taking my son once.
Americans are taught that the IRA are terrorists and as an Irish American,I tire of arguing because the Brits/Americans and Jews....the Elite money people
paint the picture with controlled media,tv,movies etc.But blacks who rape,pillage and murder are hands off.
I am now a crippled up former athlete.In my life I have made contributions
which I am proud of..much.
stop all messages

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Americans are taught that the IRA are terrorists and as an Irish American,I tire of arguing because the Brits/Americans and Jews....the Elite money people paint the picture with controlled media,tv,movies etc.But blacks who rape,pillage and murder are hands off.


Are you saying that you believe the British and Jews planted all those bombs targeting civilians, and just blamed the IRA, who inexplicably claimed responsibility for the bombs anyway? Or are you saying you have no idea what terrorism is?

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I have to say that while I'm truly impressed that there's been so much generated talk about the IRA because of this sensitive and entertaining Alan J. Pakula film, it is somewhat surprising to me for multiple reasons.

Firstly, I am not denying that there are ample images/events in the film which lend themselves to serious discussions about the human emotions surrounding the troubles in Northern Ireland and the drama associated with the IRA since the days of Michael Collins.

For example ----


1. the opening scenes are gritty and immediately pull you into the intrigue surrounding the troubles on the Emerald Isle regarding British Rule and the partition of Ireland since the Easter Rising of 1916

2. Pitt's IRA character travels to America under the sponsorship of a secret American wealthy socialite who is trying to support the Irish cause from American soil (perhaps with some underground networking)

3. the scenes in which Pitt's character meets with his IRA associate-buddy and the two bring back to life a small boat which they plan to use to smuggle back missiles for the IRA (and Pitt's character calls the boat sentimentally 'the Irish Republican Navy')

4. Pitt's character displays shrewd evasive street-smarts and on-the-fly pistol-handling skills as well as tough assassin-like skills when he has to deal with a band of unscrupulous American arms dealers and American cops and we realize Pitt's character has been trained to be a true killer-with-cause by the IRA

5. Pitt tells Ford's character about the trauma surrounding the troubles in Northern Ireland and how his father was killed and then remarks how truly unlucky the Irish are

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But that's it. Beyond that, the film is a long and tangential saga about an IRA guy (Pitt's character) learning about American consciousness from a hard-working and ethical Irish-American cop living in America (Ford's character). While there's some human-emotion involved with Pitt's character falling in love with an Irish woman living in America and tied to the IRA's activities on American soil, it is more or less just a love story between the two.

So that's what surprised me when I saw countless threads on the board for this Pakula film.

I like this film mostly because there is very little attention given to what's going on with regards to the IRA after the days of Michael Collins (e.g., Belfast stuff, not Dublin stuff).

But if you want to sweat it out over what's good/wrong with the IRA, I strongly recommend you use Neil Jordan's searing history-shattering portrait of the earlier days of the IRA, Michael Collins starring Liam Neeson.

That's just my personal recommendation (and I've included the Wiki link to the Jordan film below), but I don't want to be a party-pooper, so I add my two cents to this thread by suggesting that this Pakula film does a fine job of at least introducing American audiences to the power that cinema has in presenting controversial subjects so as to create a more comfortable 'socio-political cradle'!


Cheers!



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Michael Collins (1996 Neil Jordan Film):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_(film)

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