Someone would actually trivialize the murder of a pregnant woman and her child for the sake of making a cheap horror movie. People are just screwed up. I'm not a horro fan, but don't have a problem with them in general. But when you take real life events and use them to make something like this, it's just wrong.
shareI don't think it's any worse than "trivializing" a hate crime in an Oscar-winner like Boys Don't Cry.
shareSure it is. This is an exploitation film. That one was a lot more thoughtful.
shareThe Manson Family seemed pretty thoughtful to me. It wasn't just exploitation. There was a lot going on. And if you think about it, Boys Don't Cry is "exploiting" the situation as well.
shareHow was it exploiting Brandon Teena's story? It was a tender, depressing and unforgettable experience. The Manson Family was interesting, but soooo disrespectful to the victims of the family. It was so soulless and empty, which I suppose is necessary in accounting such a hollow group of people, but it was incomparable to the magnificent Boys Don't Cry.
Fellow Australians. If you are seeing me now, it means I have been murdered.
boys don't cry has a sympathetic theme of the stuggle of being an outsider among others who simply don't understand.
i tried watching the manson family. and never finished since all the hype, everything surrounding his so called 'fame' and cult is all conjecture.
so i totally agree that this film is a disgrace to who was actually involved.
That's your subjective opinion of The Manson Family; my own opinion is different, but no less valid. You can say it's "soulless and empty" all you want, and I will continue to see it as an interesting movie with something to say.
It's also your subjective opinion of Boys Don't Cry. But if you think about it a certain way, the filmmakers & actors were using a tragic real-life story to advance their careers and to make money. Hilary Swank made her career on this movie, being previously known for garbage like The Next Karate Kid.
When Spielberg made Schindler's List, sure on some levels he cared about the holocaust, but there was also an element of exploitation. He had been trying to make his name as a "serious" filmmaker for years with little success, and was desperate to win an Oscar. So he filmed the most uplifting true story possible about the most notorious tragedy of the 20th century. It was calculated, and regardless of the quality of the movie (pretty good but over-rated) it was exploitation.
This is what "exploitation" is - using something as leverage for gain. When Vincent Bugliosi wrote Helter Skelter, that was exploitation too.
So basically you're saying all films are made to advance the makers career, and exploits every event it depicts? Well, that's a bad attitude to have when watching a film. Obviously it's not true in most of those involved in Boys Don't Cry as well, since Sevigny stuck to smaller projects, none of the other cast took major roles, and the director only released her second film last year.
And when I say The Manson Family is soulless and empty, it isn't a negative opinion of the film, just the impression I got from it. I think this film needed to be soulless and empty to succeed, which it did somewhat.
Just cuz you get them big udders don't mean you're nuthin special!
So basically you're saying all films are made to advance the makers career, and exploits every event it depicts?
Well, that's a bad attitude to have when watching a film.
Obviously it's not true in most of those involved in Boys Don't Cry as well, since Sevigny stuck to smaller projects, none of the other cast took major roles, and the director only released her second film last year.
That's your subjective opinion of The Manson Family; my own opinion is different, but no less valid. You can say it's "soulless and empty" all you want, and I will continue to see it as an interesting movie with something to say.
It's also your subjective opinion of Boys Don't Cry. But if you think about it a certain way, the filmmakers & actors were using a tragic real-life story to advance their careers and to make money. Hilary Swank made her career on this movie, being previously known for garbage like The Next Karate Kid.
When Spielberg made Schindler's List, sure on some levels he cared about the holocaust, but there was also an element of exploitation. He had been trying to make his name as a "serious" filmmaker for years with little success, and was desperate to win an Oscar. So he filmed the most uplifting true story possible about the most notorious tragedy of the 20th century. It was calculated, and regardless of the quality of the movie (pretty good but over-rated) it was exploitation.
This is what "exploitation" is - using something as leverage for gain. When Vincent Bugliosi wrote Helter Skelter, that was exploitation too.
The director stated that he deliberately avoided shooting a scene depicting the graphic murder of Sharon Tate because he DIDN'T want to exploit a pregnant woman.
If you notice, the other murders are quite a bit more explicit.
How do you feel about Shindler's List?
How do you feel about those 9/11 films?
Do you react the same way while watching anything non-fiction?
We've met before, haven't we?
This isn't just a "horror movie." It is also a docu-drama, about real life events. It was necessary to include that murder, because it happened, and it was the most memorable and disturbing act that the Manson family committed. How could they just leave it out of the film?
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Well, I think you should either show violence for how ugly and cruel it really is or not show it at all. I think once people see how much violence hurts people and how disgusting and grotesque it really is, it takes away any glamorous appeal or romanticism it may have had before. I think action movies which make a hero out of a man or woman with a gun going around shooting everyone and everything while spouting off one-liners are a lot more offensive. Violence isn't supposed to be "cool," "awesome," or "badass." Making violence anything except harsh and brutal is dishonest.
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