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So is the making of snuff films just for entertainment (for normal/psychotic ppl) or is it some kind of ritual? I skimed through wikipedia but it only said that it's only for entertainment, but what kind of ppl would actually enjoy watching films like this :/

oh...for marlon brando's character, why was he sick? and what's the point of him being sick? sorry if it's already been asked, I just saw the movie today for the first time :)



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"So is the making of snuff films just for entertainment (for normal/psychotic ppl) or is it some kind of ritual? I skimed through wikipedia but it only said that it's only for entertainment, but what kind of ppl would actually enjoy watching films like this :/"

Well, who? The same people who'd enjoy torturing people I guess, who don't have the guts to do it themselves but are privileged enough to hire people for the job. Such extreme forms of sadism aren't hard to imagine as true seeing that there are millions of people enjoying deaths faked as realistic as possible in cinema. Mad world mate...


"oh...for marlon brando's character, why was he sick? and what's the point of him being sick? sorry if it's already been asked, I just saw the movie today for the first time :)"

Only later in the runtime it dawned on me that Brandon's character hired Depp's to star in a snuff-film, I didn't have subtitles for it and the monologue is mumbled by Brando, I could only comprehend the gist of it. I initially thought Brandon's character was facing death soon, and was looking to summon the courage to die in a worthy manner by somehow absorbing energy from Depp's death struggle, to absorbe his courage. I know this sounds abstract, but so is the movie and my mind so it can't be helped.

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I have to say, I don't see a whole lot of difference between snuff films and some of the torture porn out there now. Some of it is really gruesome and realistic, and even though it ISN'T real, it certainly feels real when you're watching it - isn't that the point?

I don't remember from the movie if it explains why Brando is sick, but I don't think it mentions it in the book, either. I know he was in a wheelchair in the book, though. Hmm...

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Snuff films don't actually exist.

This film (and the book on which it is based) takes its central premise from an urban myth that I first heard as a kid about 20 years ago. In the version I remember, a tramp is paid £1m and given a year to live a life of luxury before being killed on camera.

Even as a nipper it was obvious to me just how ridiculous the concept was. Unfortunately, this movie doesn't make it any more convincing.

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You do know that watching people suffer and die has been a form of entertainment since forever right? In Roman times, for example, it was fairly commonplace.

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Sure, of course. But there is no "snuff film industry" as was the big rumor 20 years ago that a huge underground industry of this sort existed where the movies were produced in places like South America where life was cheap. Not coincidentally, this is around the time "The Brave" was written and set to film, to capitalize on the "snuff film industry" myth.

The FBI did an exhaustive investigation into this myth and uncovered nothing. Sure, there are films where real deaths are captured on camera, like the first of the "Faces of Death" series. But there was absolutely nothing to the myth that there's an active industry that films people's real life murders for the purpose of buying and selling in a commercial underground trade as the "industry" myth had it. It turned out to be sensationalized claptrap that captured the the popular imagination, much like the satanic ritual abuse panic that spread in the early '80's that turned out to be nothing more than hyperactive evangelicals and a few authors claiming their embellishments of fiction were fact while cashing in on the hype.

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