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i just saw this on St. Patricks Day on IFC, and i have to say that it was a powerful film. the acting was exeptional, which can be expected from daniel day lewis, the directing was great, which can be expected from jim sheriden. i suggest that everybody find a way to see it asap!

"On the run from Johnny Law, ain't no trip to clevland" -Dignan

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This film is honestly in my top three: The Graduate, Terry Gilliam's Brazil and The Boxer.

Jim Sheridan is quite a talent, as is Daniel Day-Lewis. However, as Max Fisher noted at the start of this thread, the ensemble acting is exceptional, truly the greatest ensemble acting ever within a film of all time. Honestly.

BTW, Rushmore is probably fourth on my top three film list, so there you go.

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I don't know if I could put this movie in my top three, but it is a good one. I think Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of new York is some of his best acting, and I'm a huge fan of Last of the Mohicans.

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Yes, after watching The Boxer and GoNY i place DDL on my list of best actors among people like R. DeNiro.

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

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Agree on 2 of them.

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What'd he do wrong? Im Canadian I dont know any better.

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I presume he didn't show IRA in proper way, what made Gavin so angry.

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I think its more that it showed the Conflict up North as it was in the 70's and
on into the 80's, and made out like it still goes on Today, which it isn't.
Sure there is still a good deal of Tension up North, but its lessened a good
deal in recent Years thanks to the on-going Talks between Politicians and, I
believe, the genuine desire of the majority of the North for Peace and an end
to the conflict.

It could also be the way Belfast is portrayed as well. Its not like the Film
portrays in reality.

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Originally posted by peteandurnot (Wed Jul 19 2006 09:06:50 )
I think its more that it showed the Conflict up North as it was in the 70's and
on into the 80's, and made out like it still goes on Today, which it isn't.
Sure there is still a good deal of Tension up North, but its lessened a good
deal in recent Years thanks to the on-going Talks between Politicians and, I
believe, the genuine desire of the majority of the North for Peace and an end
to the conflict.

It could also be the way Belfast is portrayed as well. Its not like the Film
portrays in reality.


I seem to remember someone pointing out on another board that at the beginning of the film, some text comes up saying "at the height of the troubles", giving a rough indication of the time frame. So "80's" or possibly early-mid 90's. Remember things didn't really start to calm down until before the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 (despite Omagh & the various London bombings from 2000-2001). There were still a few bombings/attacks going on throughout the 80's and 90's, the SAS for example were up against the IRA in the 80's in Loughall (1) in the infamous shootout at the RUC station. Then 'Operation Flavius' (2) in Gibraltar involving the SAS again using the controversial shoot-to-kill policy against three IRA bombers who were planning on killing some Army personnel on parade. Then there's been various happenings over the years in the town of Strabane (3), where a lot of the fighting had occurred.

It also should be noted that the film was shot in some rundown docklands area of Dublin, which has now been regenerated. Of course this was probably deliberate in order to enforce the dreary and dark impression of Northern Ireland then.

(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_IRA_East_Tyrone_Brigade#The_Loughgall_ambush

(2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flavius

(3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabane#The_Troubles

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In Danny's first big boxing match, where Ike makes the big comment about boxers who'd died in the troubles I believe he cites someone who died in '90. So that sets a minimum time boundary.

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This is a very well done film, quite powerful, actually. I don't know why it is not better known. I would recommend it to anyone.

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It is well known,what are ya talkin about?

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Brilliant film - exceptional acting from them all from the adults to the kids. Daniel Day-Lewis and Ken Stott were outstanding.

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I saw this movie for the first time last night. I am from the States, but I lived in Derry for more than a year and have spent time in Belfast. This is definitely not the way the North is anymore, however this film was made in '97 before the agreement and to my knowledge takes place more like '92, '93 which is exactly the time frame that the events depicted in the film were first starting to occur (IRA fragmentation, stirrings of a ceasefire).

I was incredibly moved by this movie because I didn't arrive in the North for the first time until the early 00's and while it was much grittier and tense than it is now even then, I have never seen it like this. Still, judging from the tension of Belfast and its people back in '02, I would consider it likely that this is a pretty decent representation of what was unfolding.

My friends would be about the same age of the character Liam at that time and from what I heard, at least in Derry, things were every bit as violent and disturbing.

Anyway, your point is not lost. Thank God Northern Ireland has moved on. I would recommend anyone go there. Beautiful people, beautiful cities, beautiful times.

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also just to add, people from this region have some of the most distinct mannerisms and facial expressions of anyone i've ever come across. There were a couple moments where Daniel Day Lewis gave me shivers. He must have spent considerable time up there researching his role.

The one thing that was completely innacurate is that in real life, people from Northern Ireland use the expression "Aye" approximately five times a minute.

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This movie was released in '98, the same year the Belfast Agreement was made. It's true that '95-'97 were much more calm, even comparable to the violence that occurs today. But at the time this film was shot, no peace agreement had been made.

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Grew up on Falls Road as an Irish Catholic born in 44 so I think the Troubles was hard *beep* I do..ow I want to go back.

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anything with danny d is gold!!

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Just finished watching it. Loved it!

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I really liked this film, i don't know why this has such a low rating. I think it is a very good film, but it can't compare with for example In the Name o the Father a much more powerful and better done film.

DDL is great as usual and it is a pretty solid film. I would recommend people to see this.

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This movie is outstanding! As another poster asked, why isn't this more well known and/or highly regarded? 6.8! That's a joke. This movie fires on all the needed aspects and then has that extra and rare ingredient in films that can only be called chemistry between the actors and director. Equally moving and engaging.

"What difference does it make what you say about a man?"- Tanya

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first time I've seen it and it's good and I'd recommend it. That being said, I don't think it was DDL's best performance and that probably has to do just with the scope of emotions he was asked to emote - pent up anger, regret, frustration, hope. I guess for the amount of words he was allotted he did a fine job, but he's done much more with less (see first 10 minutes of there will be blood).

I've always had a huge crush on Emily Watson, so she was well cast in this...although she's obviously outclassed by DDL's chops.

It is a good movie..for sure, would I watch it again? nah...no point. It is what it is, the IRA version of the Godfather, in one movie, but much more subdued. 8/10 for me.

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