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the ending - what the heck happened? **Spoilers**


I just saw this movie for the first time, and I loved it, but the ending has left me a little perplexed. What happened to Buddy? I mean he just disappeared. Then as the Kid is walking off we see him get taller and just keep walking into the sunset toward Vegas.

After going back and watching it again, the only thing that I can come up with; is that Buddy represented the spirit of rock n' roll. When Elvis died, Buddy became the spirit. When Buddy is killed and the Kid picks up the guitar, the Kid gets the spirit, and, in a sense, becomes Buddy. So it was saying that Rock n' Roll will never die.

Is that what other people got out of it? What was your take on the ending?


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I always took like in Star Wars when Obi-wan lets himself be struck down and disappears, becoming a guiding force for Luke which ultimately leads to the defeat of the dark side. For me Buddy was too rough and worn-out (all the references of him being a washed-up drunk) so his rein as a good king wouldn't have lasted long. The whole time it was really the Kid's destiny to be king and Buddy was the person to teach him what he needed to know (like how to stand up for himself, the importance of those you care about). By the end of the movie Buddy's job was finished, and as the Kid's walking and "turns into Buddy," we see how he eventually grows up and becomes King thanks to Buddy.

Also, you can see it as Buddy representing good and Death as evil. You can't have one without the other, so when the Kid wasted Death, Buddy has to leave as well, body and all. Guess that means at that moment someone elsewhere picked up Death's role (so then did Elvis has an archenemy as well? Hmm...)

I do like your "spirit of Rock n' Roll" idea, especially how "it will never die." Never thought of that, probably the closest to what the makers intended (while leaving it open enough for all kinds of interpretations).

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(so then did Elvis has an archenemy as well? Hmm...)

Thanks! I just had quite a chuckle picturing Ed Sullivan as the embodiment of Evil. :D

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Buddy = Buddy Holly, one of the greatest classic rock guitarists and one of the three who died in the famous plane crash on "the day that music died". It was Elvis who inherited the spirit of rock'n'roll from Buddy, not vice versa. :)

As to the movie's ending... metal "killed" classic rock, and was in turn "killed" by the heir of rock'n'roll. It's an analogue to the history of rock music, AND a parallel to a common theme in samurai drama, children avenging the deaths of their parents (and being cut down in their turn by the children of their own victims, in a never-ending spiral of bloody vengeance). Take a look at "Lady Snowblood", for instance.

The message is... well, rock'n'roll is here to stay. The bearers all go down in their turn, the fire is sometimes put out, but there will always come someone to pick up the torch and light the flame a-new. And it's not just rock that goes on - it's rebellion, resistance, hope: put short, LIFE.

And on a deeper level, it's also a dig at Heavy Metal. :)

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"Death" is clearly personifying Slash of Guns N' Roses.

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Buddy was more of a meme than a person, so he didn't really die, since he was a self-perpetuating idea in human form. He sort of "infected" the kid and the kid picked up where Buddy left off. It's kind of a moral, like this: death tires to kill Buddy, who represents what is ultimately cool about old school rock and roll- you can't kill that off, because it's the essense of cool, so it lives on. Or something.

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The kid is Kurt Cobain. I thought that was pretty obvious.

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When Death killed Buddy, it seemed to me to be a mantle, from father to son, like that crap "Phantom" film, or the Zorro legend...in that the kid took up Buddy's things and acted on his last wish, to make it to Vegas...giving hope to a new generation...

Much like Stephen King once said, "Because Rock and Roll will never die!"

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Dude! That totally makes sense!

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Kurt Cobain? Don't see it

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I don't see Kurt Cobain either. Kurt was hardly the caretaker of standard rock in the vein of Elvis or Buddy Holly. I think I'll stick to the idea of Rock and Roll will never die, and the concept that when the old worn out warrior finally dies, there will always be someone there to take his mantle.

I always thought it had a Lone Wolf and Cub feel personally.

No one loves you. Because you're tiny and made of meat.

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The kid might be Michael Jackson go watch the "Ghost" video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UwOA8H5Vaak

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kurt kobain what the *beep* man?

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The only parallel I see is that you can only make out what the kid is saying about a quarter of the time.

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The movie was meant to be part of a trilogy, but the other two movies were put on hold due to bad box office figures.

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I thought the ending was disapointing. I hoped that the guitar duel between Death and Buddy would last longer eventually they would start pull of some crazy Eddie Van Halen skills AND fighting with the sword. Buddy kills Death and Buddy and the kid continue to Las Vegas. Buddy is crowned the new King and then the movie would end with everybody partying like if it was like 1958.

I guess my expectations was too high but the rest of the rocks!

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I loved the ending. Didn't think or analyse it as much as you people do. It was nicely melancholic. Maybe my subconsciousness did find enough meaning in it. I can't tell what it means exactly.

When I think about it, I guess it's more like the kid has probably found a *father*: Buddy. The world is devastated, not many good souls around, not a nice place for kids. Buddy dies, but there the kid's got something like a fatherly idol, somebody to look up to. In the end, as if withing his heart, Buddy is still alive, they go to LasVegas "together". Like wishful thinking or something. I'm sure the makers found some meaning in the "death-Metal vs. Rock'n'Roll"-Department, maybe as a side-effect. "Hey now listen to this, doesn't this follow suit when you think about death-metal-rock'n'roll-stuff?" - Jeffrey: "Yeah man, what a coinscidence, let's do it that way."
So maybe the movie is at least a BIT multi-layered.

I for my part am a big fan of this little freaky flick.




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Another way to look at it is that the kid was always Buddy in reality.

You could look at it as an allegory.

At the beginning Buddy is very stoic, doesn't seem to care about anything anymore except making it to Vegas and becoming king. Though it's never really revealed what his motivations are for doing so.

When he first picks up the kid it might be a hint that the stuff that's going on around him is actually starting to have an effect on him.

At first the kid doesn't say anything. So this inner child or innocent spirit doesn't have much say over him. But it's still this annoying scream. It nags at him and he can't seem to leave it behind or brush it off.

All through out the movie the kid begins to have more and more of a voice and also becomes more and more of a burden, as he gets hacked up trying to protect the kid. If he simply stuck to his guns and forgot about it, he wouldn't have had half the headaches in the movie and would have been to Vegas in half the time.

But what kind of King would he have made if he did that? What would have sustained him?

You then see through out the movie that even though the kid is annoying and is a burden (as is ones conscience, or inner innocence) it did prove itself to be a source of strength as well, in finding means of transportation, and then shows that it can stand up for itself, punching out the "Tag you're it" kid.

Also when Buddy decides to give up his "gig" after killing the guy with the cheap guitar and butterfly sword from the bar, it's the kid that gives him the strength and will to continue on to Vegas.

Then at the end it shows that stoic, ass kicking, katana wielding, guitar playing Buddy wasn't enough to overcome death. It was the kid who took him down.

So the stoic Buddy died, and the inner childlike Buddy lived on, however he also assumed the mantle of the stoic Buddy by donning his clothes, guitar, and sword, and thus the two Buddy's merged as one to become King of Lost Vegas.

Of course we also have the other allegories of the representations of rock with Buddy Holly and Slash and these could also tie into the above in various ways or be completely unrelated.

Anyway, that's what I was thinking when I saw the ending.

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best idea ive heard

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