Bat Ice Skates


Out of all the cheesiness in this movie and Batman Forever, I think stuff like this bugged me the most. How and why did they conveniently have ice skates in their suits ready to go in the scene at the museum where Freeze covered the floor with ice?

The movie implies that this was the first time that they have met Freeze. If that is true, Batman must have always had those ice skates built into his suit, and not as a last minute addition to fight Freeze. In all the fights with Penguin and Catwoman and Joker, did he have the ice skates ready to go but chose not to use them? When Robin came on board, did Batman make sure that he suit was built with the ice skates to match his? If Batman decided out of the blue long ago to put ice skates on his suit for no reason, what other silly stuff does he have built in along with that?

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Holy go-go gadget, Batman!

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Bat shark repellant? Just go with it dude.

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The best part about those "Bat Ice Skates" is that they magically transformed into "Rollerblades", which is what everyone else was wearing too while "ice" skating.

In reality, you can't Rollerblade on ice (I've actually seen kids try it at my local ice skating rink; it's hilarious), and of course, in reality, that wasn't really ice. But the movie makers didn't even try to create the illusion that they were wearing ice skates (except for the closeup of the "Bat Ice Skates"); the Rollerblades were plainly visible onscreen many times.

Also, Batman and Robin are good skaters? That's convenient. It takes a lot of practice to become even remotely proficient at skating. So I guess they were inexplicably planning for this for a long time. You never know when you'll need to fight bad guys on ice, so you'd better build some Bat Boots with pop-out Bat Skates (not that such a thing is even possible without having about a 4-inch thick sole to conceal them in) and practice skating for a thousand hours. And of course, boots which have proper ankle support and sole rigidity for skating wouldn't be very good for walking or running in.

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They were plainly visible on screen if you saw the film many times, on first viewing you don't realize they are orllerskates, and so what? that is what filmmaking is. Sometimes mistakes make it on camera and they use illusions. At the end of the day, Batman & Robin is old school filmmaking, with practical effects and illusions, and that is an art in and of itself and that is a fact. It's more creative than cgi.

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>They were plainly visible on screen if you saw the film many times, on first viewing you don't realize they are orllerskates

I've seen the movie exactly once (and once is one time too many), earlier tonight, and they were plainly visible to me. They even show a shot of them when they aren't moving, so there isn't even any motion blur to help obscure them. Here's a screenshot - https://i.imgur.com/ZV3u9C1.jpg.

>and so what?

It's lazy movie making, that's "so what". It's like if you could see the trailer towing a car that the character is supposed to be driving, or if you could see the wheels under Luke Skywalker's land speeder in Star Wars, or anything else that blatantly ruins the intended illusion.

>that is what filmmaking is.

That's what bad film making is.

>Sometimes mistakes make it on camera and they use illusions.

As I said, they didn't even try to hide the fact that the actors were wearing roller skates on "ice". See the screenshot above. Also, just before that screenshot they showed a closeup of their roller skates while they were skating. They were in motion, but you could still clearly see that those were wheels, not metal blades.

>Batman & Robin is old school filmmaking, with practical effects and illusions

And what was the practical effect or illusion which made it look like they were wearing ice skates? There was none, because they didn't even try. The roller skates were in plain view of the camera multiple times. It is not as if it would have been difficult. All you have to do is avoid showing their skates during the main filming of the scene, and for closeup insert shots of their skates while skating, you simply film those on real ice with them wearing real ice skates.

This is in addition to the sheer impossibility of concealing blade / blade holder assemblies in the boots that Batman and Robin were wearing, along with the absurdity of them having had the foresight to build such [impossible] boots in the first place.

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lol whatever Nolan fanboy. There's nothing bad about Batman & Robin.

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>lol whatever Nolan fanboy.

Your crystal ball is in need of repair, Miss Cleo. The Dark Knight was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and The Dark Knight Rises wasn't much better. Batman Begins was the only halfway decent one from Nolan, and even that had the "shaky cam" and rapid cuts which are a hallmark of modern crappy movies. There's never been a really good Batman movie. The first one wasn't bad; I saw it in the theater in '89. It didn't live up to the inexplicable level of hype surrounding it at the time though. The sequel wasn't bad either. The third one was decidedly worse, and Batman & Robin was utter garbage.

>There's nothing bad about Batman & Robin.

LOL!

In any case, given that you have no counterarguments to my previous post, your tacit concession on the whole matter is noted.

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Your argument is simply saying you do not like it without any basis. If we are talking about "mistakes", even the best films have them, like The Exorcist and Blade Runner. If Batman & Robin has them it means nothing in regards to its quality because that's what FILMMAKING IS, or used to be, anyway. Practical effects. So go fuck yourself.

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>Your argument is simply saying you do not like it without any basis.

No. I refuted your asinine assertion that you have to see it many times in order to notice the roller skates, and I explained why it was bad movie making.

>If we are talking about "mistakes", even the best films have them, like The Exorcist and Blade Runner.

I'm not a big fan of either movie, but the roller skates thing was sheer laziness and/or ineptitude. They know the characters are supposed to be on ice and wearing ice skates, yet they point the camera straight at the roller skates, multiple times.

>If Batman & Robin has them it means nothing in regards to its quality because that's what FILMMAKING IS, or used to be, anyway.

Yes, bad film making, as I've already pointed out.

>Practical effects.

What do practical effects have to do with anything? They didn't even need any "practical effects" to maintain the illusion. Keeping the camera from being aimed at the roller skates is not a practical effect. Filming some closeup inserts of people on real ice with ice skates isn't a practical effect either. The illusion of them being on ice skates the whole time would come from the way it is filmed and edited.

>So go fuck yourself.

Your tacit concession remains noted, simpleton.

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You are a fucking imbecile with zero understanding of cinema.

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Your tacit concession on the whole matter remains noted, dipshit.

Also:

Comical Irony Alert

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"There's nothing bad about Batman & Robin."

You're a professional troll, aren't you? I've seen you on other threads and honestly... You are pathetic.

In case your brain doesn't work well and you actually believe this cringeworthy statement: There is EVERYTHING that could be considered as awful filmmaking in this movie.

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oh really? and what is that?

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