so, did she do it?


so what do you think? did she fake the music too? the best scene in the movie is her sitting alone at the train station. unpredictably, she turns out to be the most sympathetic character, but did she insert the music fragment?

reply

I don't think she messed with the music BUT SHE DID have sex with Wes.

reply

It was shown in the end she didn't steal the $50, that Wes character lost it from his pocket and it got stuck in the chair of the restaurant they ate at. So therefore it means she also didn't insert the music fragment. She was the innocent one in the end, the others were all guilty and stodgy.

Also, thruout the film she plays mind games and is always calm and in control, but with both the money and especially the music thing (something she's invested herself in), both times she bristles with passionate honesty when she gets accused of them.

It's a device anyway...like a whodunnit film....all along she's portrayed as someone who is a likely suspect, but at the end isn't the one.

--------------------------------
Kilroy was here

reply

She certainly likes playing mind games but you make a good point about her being completely lax about everything until she's explicitly and wrongfully accused. I don't think she forged the quote and I do think she slept with Wes, but we'll never know for sure. One of the overriding themes of this movie/play is that people are never what they seem.

PS From what I can recall, the actual play never does explain what happened to the $50, making it even more ambiguous. I'm glad the movie had it; at least it gives us something to hold onto as we speculate.

--------

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

reply

Yeah, I would say the safe bet is that she did have sex with Wes. Again, this is something she is very calm and off-handed about when accused of it, indicating she did it. The only accusations she bristled in anger about was the forged music and the $50 note. This movie is interesting again because everyone is playing mind games and lying and telling the truth about various things, that none of them can believe anything, all are suspicious about everything, and apart from the $50 note in the final shot, we the audience are also left to be suspicious and unsure about everything as well. Really enjoyed this movie, a great play/script.

--------------------------------
Kilroy was here

reply

Another reason why they did have sex...

When Wes at the end is told to tell what happened the previous night, as he's telling the story, his body language gives it away. He's all pensive, tense, hands clutched tightly into his lap, he folds a leg over very awkwardly.

Also, like i said previously, Kim bristles at the end when Wes is told to tell, and he puts her down as being disgusting. She bristles angrily at that post-sexual rejection, becomes transparent, broken open, now honest. Just at that moment Matt walks in to relay what happened at the meeting, that she is accused of tampering with the computer program. Her passion to make all believe she is telling the truth about not tampering with the program explodes, and as a way to make all realize that she actually confesses she and Wes did have sex.

Pretty conclusive.

--------------------------------
Kilroy was here

reply

Yeah, it was interesting that Nancy said she knew her husband couldn't have had sex with another woman and convincingly lie. From what I saw, he was fully capable of that--resentful, with a sometimes mean-spirited sense of humor. And then his attraction to Kim was also creepy in that he both suspected and disliked her and was super attracted to her. He started and perpetrated most of the game playing. I don't think Nancy was fully convinced that he hadn't cheated, hence why she went to hit on younger guys. I found him to be the "villain," even though this movie obviously wasn't trying to define people in black and white.

reply