If you saw the movie and have questions, ask me!
I read the book, so I can help you out. From what I hear the movie didn't really explain enough. And it only took place over a year.
shareWhy did Todd kill the bum? I mean the guy had a knife in his back, even if Todd was told the guy was stabbed in self defence how much damage could the guy done? Or why would he even believe a Nazi in the first place?
shareIn the book its explained alot more how Todd developes his own lust for murder. He kills the bum to satisfy his own lustings to kill.
His mind has become corrupt. In the book Todds sexual awakening is linked to his violence. All of this is totally left out in the disappointing film adaption.
I agree totally. the book was great. This movie would've been pretty good if i hadn't read the book first, because i was quite dissappointed. ah well. i still think the movie was decent. but i have a question.
in this movie they changed the ending completely (i was waiting for him to take out his 30.30) and they replaced it was a less violent confrontation with rubber ed. Did todd say/assume that Ed's wife left him because he was bi/homosexual? or was todd just poking fun at him? i'd watch it again but i rented this movie a long time ago
yeah is todd okay at the end of apt pupil?
what happens to him? Please tell me
I wish someone would freakin respond to me!
shareIn the book you mean? Well in the Book he takes out his 30-30, kills the guidance councel when he sees him, then goes near the underpass, and it 8 hours before the police take him down. So in the Book Todd goes by by. And let me explain some more. He first starts seeing Dussander when he is 14, he wants to know more about the concentration camps because he's developed a sort of sick curosity, think of how people look at car accidents. That's how it all starts.
shareI saw the movie and he didn't kill anybody, except for self-defense when Dussander locked him in the attic, and the guy was nearly dead in the first place. Dussander dies of a heart attack in the hospital at the end. SO was this guy just a psychotic killer who knew he was dying and decided to have a relationship with someone interested in his war atrocities?
shareYou've read the book, it was a novella in a book collection called 'Four Seasons' anyhow I can remeber three of the stories, Apt Pupil, The Body and the Shawshank redemption. What was the other one?
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The breathing Method
shareit was called Different Seasons.
shareAlso "Shawshank Redemption" was called "The Rita Hayworth Redemption" in the book
shareActually in the novella, Dussander mentions the main character of the Shawshank Redemption. Dufresne, I think his name was. Basically Dufresne was the guy Dussander bought his stocks from
Five-foot-nine, I didn't know they stacked sh!t that high - Gunnery Sgt. Hartman, Full Metal Jacket
Regarding the fourth one, was it Breathing Method or Breathing Lessons?
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I thought it was "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption."
"A little more than kin, but less than kind." -Hamlet
It is.
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The four stories are titled thus:
1. Hope Springs Eternal: Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption.
2. Summer of Corruption: Apt Pupil.
3. Fall From Innocence: The Body.
4. A Winter's Tale: The Breathing Method.
IMO...
Bottom line is: The book is really, really good.
Two of the movie adaptiations ("Shawshank", "Stand By Me") are really, really good.
I haven't seen "Apt Pupil" but what I've read about it makes me inclined to skip it. The filmmakers were apparently too cowardly to use the original ending. Bah! (See: "The Natural". Bah!)
Too bad; Renfro and McKellan are both very good, and the story itself is an excellent journey through the corruption of a (young) mind.
King is good at that, at getting inside his characters' heads as they twist. "The Shining" is a great example, as is "The Stand" (particularly in the cases of Nadine and Harold.)
Any King fan, particularly one who enjoyed "The Breathing Method", should, without delay, check out the work of another New Englander, H.P. Lovecraft.
(Three Lovecraft tales have been filmed by Stuart Gordon. They are pretty horrific, and personally I enjoyed them for what they were, but be warned: Lovecraft fans often despise Gordon's treatment of the source material. C'est la vie.)
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Between 1987, when I first saw Stand By Me, and now, I've probably read the whole book 20 times. I almost have it memorized. If you have any questions, Carebearskill, feel free to ask me.
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What is great about the book is as Dussander dies he sees the deamons coming after him for all the things he did. It was creepy. The best Stephen King Novella is "Rage". I think it is out of publication today because it is very "columbine-ish" -
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The Stand is my favorite King book. It's a great read, I loved it. I read it in one sitting. (I'm not kidding, it took about 14 or 16 hours. Then I read it again right away. Okay, I was young and stupid at the time, but I still love the book! Great characters. The mini-series was a nice try, but doesn't do it justice.)
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In the book? Oh, here's no doubt in my mind, they killed him. They had to - he wasn't coming down.
shareAbout Singer and co. taking the 'cowardly path' with the ending: I haven't read the novella, but the way it is portrayed in the film seems more subtle...Dussander's influence stays with Todd, and since Todd survives, who knows what kind of monster he could grow into? It's creepier.
shareI agree. Singer's ending is more disturbing and sinister. The scene in which Todd threatens Rubber Ed by imitating his Master conveys in a clever and chilly way the idea of Todd being Denker's apt pupil who indeed "graduated". He's just flexing his muscles, relishing in having power over people which leaves us wondering what will become of him.
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