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Why were Ruiz and Montez arrested for slave trading?


They did not attempt to bring slaves into the United States [their landing off Montauk was due to the insurrection]. Don't get me wrong- they're scum and deserved a severe punishment for being slavers but what mechanism of law was there to be used?

There's clearly a case of fraud against them because they lied about where the slaves came from and maybe obstruction of justice for lying to US authorities. Was bringing slaves to Cuba from Africa against Spanish law? Slavery was legal in Cuba but was the slave trade illegal [i.e.- bringing new slaves from Africa to the New World]? Isn't that a matter for Spanish authorities then?

A little help, please.

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Because they were knowingly buying and selling slaves that were obtained through the Atlantic slave trade which was outlawed at that point.

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It wasn't outlawed in Cuba, where they were taking the slaves [then a colony of Spain].

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True, but the "slaves" they bought had been on the infamous Tecora, and they well knew it- which is why they lied on the manifest with all those Spanish names, then hid it and hoped nobody would look close enough to spot the inconsistencies should it be discovered. Bit pathetic for a cover-up, really.

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True, but the "slaves" they bought had been on the infamous Tecora, and they well knew it- which is why they lied on the manifest with all those Spanish names, then hid it and hoped nobody would look close enough to spot the inconsistencies should it be discovered. Bit pathetic for a cover-up, really.

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Yes, bringing slaves from Africa to Cuba was against Spanish law, and was a major plot point in the movie when Roger S. Baldwin proved it in court. I believe that Ruiz and Montez had already been arrested for something else in real life, and anyway, in real life Roger Sherman Baldwin was one of the top trial lawyers in the country, not the hungry ambulance chaser Spielberg made him out to be. The film implies he lost his business over this case, but think about it. If you want to hire a lawyer, do you care that he got some guilty guy off? No. You want the guy who took on a seemingly impossible case and won. This case made R.S. Baldwin governor of Connecticut and eventually United States Senator. His legal arguments won the case before the SCOTUS, not the Fourth of July oration by an ex-POTUS.

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Tecora brought the slaves to Cuba and sold them to the Spaniards in the film. They gave them names to try to cover up their state of origin. In the film the slaves revolt and are captured in U.S. waters but I don't recall the film stating a port of destination for the La Amistad. They were apprehended by a USN ship in U.S. waters in the film. That's why they were charged with slave trading.

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I know it is an old post, but I realized nobody actually answered your question, stirling.

'Was bringing slaves to Cuba from Africa against Spanish law? Slavery was legal in Cuba but was the slave trade illegal': NO, by 1811, slave trade was forbidden by the British government and a treaty was signed between England and Spain, agreeing to it. So, yes, slavery was legal in Cuba, but slave trades became illegal for Spain and all of it's colonies (Cuba was a colony of Spain, therefore, bond to the same treaty by international rules). Besides, it was a Spanish ship doing the trade.

'Isn't that a matter for Spanish authorities then?'. No, because, international treaties are made between different countries and must be respected by them. When Spain violated it (by trading slaves), they became subject to international judgement, i.e.: from USA or England. USA Court judged them for violating the treaty between Spain and England.

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Clear explanation, thank you!

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