Claude and Lucy


Hey, I'm in the middle of watching this film at the moment, and I was just curious...are there any girls who are kinda like Lucy (punkish, grrly) who are actually attracted to girls like Claude (tomboyish, baggy unflattering clothing)? I'm not saying that they shouldn't be or anything like that before anyone thinks that's what I mean...I'm just kinda curious :P

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Well of course i can't genralise and say all lesbians or bisexual women are the same way but most of the time a "femme girly girl" is attracted to a "butch tomyboyish girl" which is where the butch and femme thoughts about women come from.

Some femme women only like other femme women, some butch women on like other butch women. Of course this is all the shallow side of things Lucy liked claude for her personality and vice versa.

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Well I though Claude's clothes looked good on her. Kind of fits her personality.
I'm not sure if I could answer the question about Lucy's attraction to Claude without making a complete fool of myself, but lets just say that everyone is attracted to different things.

Lucy and Claude made a great couple.

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Not to generalize or anything, but I'm a femme lesbian who's mostly attracted to other femmes. As a matter of fact, hardcore butches kind of... scare me, eh-heh.But, hey, everyone's different.

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I think Claude's clothes are very cool. And, gradually throughout the film she starts to wear tighter clothes. Claude is not a big woman anyway, even though the film sort of portrays her that way and can skew one's perception.

In regards, two women who are punkish being into one another. I think that is totally feasible. And, one important thing to understand is that everyone is seen as attractive by some people.

I know for me, I am attracted to some masculine women and I am a masculine woman myself. I usually prefer women who are less masculine looking than myself but personality, style, ethics, and more are part of the attraction for me. I am a lesbian and I find people attractive on the physical, intellectual, spirtual, and ethical levels.

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Yeah..I'm a femme girl who likes very girly girls too...not butches!..I don't know..sometimes they make me feel uncomfortable...I don't want to offend anybody, It's just that...I don't know...if I'm a lesbian a like girls, for me, I feel attracted to the softness of the girls..their smell..their make-up...I don't know...I think everyone have different tastes..and fortunately they r enough women for everyone!!!...Aleluyaaa!

I want to add that in real life..Leisha likes butches girls..her ex-girlfriend was the singer K.D Lang and now she's dating Nina Garduno..a business butch!...Oh my God..I would cut my hair..change my clothes..I 'd do anything to get Leisha's attention...I love her!!..she's the girl of my dreams, in every way!

Leisha, if u read this..and u know..maybe one day u decide to come to Colombia....give me a call..I'll be ur type...promise!...Te estaré esperando!.. ;-)

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Well... I can't really answer your question, but I would just like to say that I believe attraction begins with personality... looks are just a plus. That's the way I truly feel. Now, I'm am not a lesbian, but I do wear clothes like Claude wears and the reason I do is because it's part of my personality... if you don't like it... shove it, lol. Well, that's all I wanted to comment on. Really great movie though =).

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Speaking of those two, how hot was there 'wud be' love scene?! Hell I'm straight and I'm jealous of Claude! The licking/kissing her stomach bit, Wow, thats hot hot HOT! Leisha Hailey can lick my stomach any time!! :P

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To be honest, I found Lucy's attraction to Claude a bit unrealistic. Not just in look departments, but personality also. Claude just seems so unsure of herself and quiet and rather awkward alot of the time whilst Lucy is sweet but confident, not to mention alot better looking.

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Well u know wot they say, opposites attract :)

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Really? I think they are both beautiful, beautiful women. I have always found Alison Folland beautiful -- those features! Those dark eyes! -- and Leisha Hailey has that slender physique combined with the burst of punk rock creativity beauty I have always admired.

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I dont know, I would have totally not spoken to Claude after her little freak out at Lucy's house. It scared the sh it out of me.

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Lucy's attraction seems a classic "pound puppy" syndrome where you pity and adore a being that's "sad", needy and unsure because you're emotionally secure enough to be in a position of being empathetic, nuturing, concerned. Reality plays no small part here since in 'real life' Lucy/Leisha is a Cancer! Momma Mia! ... Anyone who knows a cancer knows they're born to care, cook, kiss, commiserate. It shows through her acting out a role, pretty much in all her work, whether in the L Word or whatever.

I think it also comes down to that wonderfully mysterious ying/yang energy.... and another layer ... two types of personalities: givers and takers.

Alone we aren't necessarily aware of it, or need to define it as such, but in life we all play one role or another depending on the company we keep or circumstances we find ourselves in. We can adapt to naturally to counter-balance different people, like a being a "giver" to a lover, friend, stranger in need, and "taker" with our parents, teachers, elders, et c. Over time we switch roles or adjust as the need arises of course.

Lucy & Claude stay on their own side much of the time, "unbalanced" which seems to create intensity that causing attraction itself. Water adores the structure of a cup, cups need liquid . . .

It's a fascinating process, this evolving through the stages, seeing others doing the same. Best part is growing older (wiser?) you accept the beautiful complexity of playing both roles in primary relationships simultaneously. That rare balance is very satisfying indeed, if you're lucky enough to experience it.

Just some late night thoughts!


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Mmm, perhaps. In my opinion Lucy and Ellen kind of symbolized two aspects of Claude's personality--one uncertain and awkward, the other confident and self-assured. I think Claude breaking away from Ellen and going for Lucy meant that she wanted to grow, to become the sort of strong, positive person that Lucy is. And I think Lucy sensed that aspect of her, her full potential, and was attracted by it. After all, Claude came across as very strong, even as she was dealing with the pain of losing a friend and loving someone very self-destructive. To quote another classic (ohhh teenaged lesbians), "you become who you're with." People can be dragged down by bad relationships, but on their own or in good relationships, a strong person can really shine.

As for physical attraction, there's rarely any logic to it; I think it's totally plausible that a girl like Lucy could go for a beautiful, troubled tomboy in baggy clothes.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo.

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Claude was hotter,, very naturally pretty

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Hey, I love your sig quote! To this day I'm afraid to eat brownies and watch Gwar videos. :)

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The thing I found amusing about it, personally, was that when I was about 14-15, I was pretty much just like Claude, the way I dressed and everything, and then 16-17 I was like Lucy, with the bright hair and stuff. So it was like watching me date myself :S Though I am quite a narcissist, so...

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