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Does Angelina Jolie die in this movie?

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Yes

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how do you know that???

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Did you see it?

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Yes, she died, which may have been good for plot exposition, but was about the least believable and most contrived death I have seen in a movie.

First, she is assaulted by a comsumptive Union captain who plants a juicy kiss on her lips just before crumpling in a spastic fit of coughing. The Jolie character gets consumption (tuberculosis) from this encounter, although it is so difficult to "catch" TB that most people require months or even years of exposure to catch it. She is also relatively young and healthy and should be able no only to resist TB, but to mount an effective immune defense and live for may years, but deteriorated rather quickly. On her death bed she looks radiant, serene and much too healthy to be dying. Yet after everyone has had an opportunity to say goodbye, she makes a few pithy observations, then announces it is time to die, folds her hands across her chest, and "gives up the ghost."

That said, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie although there were some serious anachronisms in it. Most of the performances were measured and believable, the scenery lush and the story compelling.

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but think about when it is set. it is not like they had the kind of help that we have today.

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I actually thought the death scene was very moving. I loaned this DVD to a friend, and she said the same thing.....so, I guess beauty IS truly in the eye of the beholder.

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That scene reminded me of a stage play. The drama all surrounding the all surreal bed and dying beauty laying in it.
I loved the movie, but this scene just kinda folded the quality of the rest of it to a certain degree.
JMO

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You can clearly see that Angelina has had a rhinoplasty since making this movie. She looks very different from what she looks like now.

Mommy to two little monsters

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didn't she catch tuberculosis (tb) from when the Union soldier/captain(?) "kissed" her? and, if it was tuberculosis, wasn't that also commonly known as "consumption" back in the 19th century (1800s)?

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Yes, you are correct.
Mommy to two little monsters

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I'm not an expert, but she may have had some amount of a weakened immune system in part from all the stress she was under (soldiers taking over her home, her one daughter trying to kill said soldiers, her other daughter ducking unwanted sexual advances from the same soldiers, her husband gone off to war, etc.), plus we do not know for certain that what the soldier does to her is one-time, he may have continously assaulted her (plus lived in her house, possibly in close enough proximity) over the course of days/weeks, that soldier may not have been the only one with consumption/TB staying in her home-which the soldiers likely would have boarded up somewhat for protection but also trapping the disease rather than letting the air flow, and if she had been exposed before - being a Doctor's wife (and she seemed the type to go visit and care for friends who had fallen ill) she may have been around a patient or two in the past who had the disease. It was TX, where the climate was considered better suited for those suffering from consumption, so her husband may have had several patients who were victoms/carriers of the disease, as well as their families if they had brought their families with them out west to dryer air.

And while yes, I agree that she was very healthy and serene looking for someone wasting away due to illness, part of me can give it over to a)artistic licence (such as that's how she saw herself, that's how her best friend and husband saw her, that's how the slave-turned-housekeeper saw her, etc. - so that's how they depicted her) or b) Southern Pride where a Southern Lady would not allow herself to be seen in a shoddy state but would have had on her best clothes/etc. to receive guests into her home (although taken pretty far by the crew making the movie). I don't have enough issue with it to have it ruin the movie for me, as when I initially watched it, I barely registered it due to the emotion of the scene. Upon the second viewing, I shrugged it off as that last burst of strength/energy/etc. that comes just before death. Personally, I like to think that we were just seeing her as her loved ones saw her, radiant, serene, and full of life.

I also admit that, for me, I was ready to turn off the movie once I realized she was going to die. She and the aunt (Dana DeLany's character) were my two favorite characters, especially after the scene where they were making the bullets for the soldiers. However, I stuck with it, and am glad I did as this is a good story. They should probably put this as Suggested Viewing in classes talking about the Civil War, TX, Women in the 1850s-1900, and other similar subjects because it really does help put a human face to those issues.

"There is still hope."-Arwen

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