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did anybody hate Eleanor?


Did anybody hate Eleanor? 'coz I'm getting soooooooooooo fedddddddddddddddddd up with her (been only season 3 lolz), i HATE this character (well perhaps that means a compliment to the actress playing that character)

I can't stand Rebecca either . Gosh they're awful. stubborn, biatchy all the time.

I watched Boston Legal first, and frankly I didn't hate any of those lawyers. Well Denny was annoying sometimes, but he's lovable and cute ehe. Gosh then I started The Practice and only 3 seasons past I already can't stand these two women gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh




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I didn't mind Rebecca, she's bossy but that got things done.

I didn't like Eleanor after the whole thing with the blind date. She doesn't like being judged based on her looks and ohter superficial qualities. But isn't that exactly what she did to George? Granted, George later turns out to be a psycho, but she judged him based on his looks. Hypocrite.

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Eleanor is a strong forceful character, the sort of person you want as a friend.

It's easy to like (or 'not dislike') the characters in Boston Legal, as it is a bit of an easy-going comedy-type drama - and hilarious it was too!

The Practice confronts things and YOU (the watcher) as it is high drama, so inevitably you will love and hate these dramatic characters in a dramatic series.

I know BL is a sequel (of sorts) but the two shows are really very different from eachother.

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I didn't hate Eleanor, but she wasn't my favorite. I admit I don't really find overweight women attractive, so that probably had something to do with it. Not proud of that, but that's how I am.

As far as her character, yeah, she kind of had some bad judgement at times, which I can relate to. I sympathized with her weight issues, and the issues she had with Lindsay as far as who got paid what. But there was something I just didn't like about her. She seemed kind of whiny.

As for Rebecca, I did like her. She was kind of blunt at times, but I didn't mind it. The only time I didn't like her was when she defended a client and kind of belittled him in her closing. She got him off, but she made him seem like he was a loser.



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Fiero, that movie has absolutely nothing to do with this television show! Why bring it up?! The two things are totally unrelated! I'd stake my life on it!









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Well, Juvie, they are a little related. That movie Fiero is talking about is "From the Hip" written by David E Kelley. The Practice was done by DEK. That's the only relation between the two.

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I know, Lake, I was joking. Guess not well enough. I thought the "I'd stake my life on it" would tip you off.





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Eleanor is a strong forceful character, the sort of person you want as a friend.


No. Eugene is a strong forceful character. Bobby is a strong forceful character. Helen is a strong forceful character.

Eleanor is a selfish, arrogant, myopic tool. Everything is about her, and she can only ever see the world from her own "everyone is out to get me" point of view.

The whole "Bobby's girlfriend gets special treatment" was always "Lindsay gets paid more because she's sleeping with Bobby" even though several people pointed out she brought in a TON of money to the firm.

And her parenthood thing was obnoxious - virtually everyone tells her that it's going to be about the best interests of the child, and all she can fixate on is "We had a contract" so she could have her precious little life accessory.

No - not the kind of person I'd ever want as a friend.

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Yeah. Absolutely right. She was also jealous of Lindsey's success. Eleanor looked like a sad puppy, fat sad puppy and is one I would not want to be associated with. She is a loser. After Bobby and Lindsey ;left, the firm were on the path to inevitable destruction.

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I never liked or could stand to watch a full episode of Boston Legal, however, ELEANOR was THE BEST on THE PRACTICE. The Actress, who plays her, also SAVED Jennifer Love Hewitt's Ghost Whisper. That was a bomb before she came on. THE MOST memorable thing about Eleanor was when she won the EMMY and said this win is for all the fat people or fat actresses. SHE ROCKED> Becca was annoying, but I loved her in season two when she transformed into a lawyer. after that she was Tired. LARA FLYNN is having a reality show coming out. BEEN a while since we saw her, SHE ALSO MADE the practice GREAT!

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A reality show? Oh, God, I hope not.




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I really liked Eleanor, she was the first reason I started really getting into it when she won that Emmy and her speech...

Sure her character had a lot of flaws, the situation with George Vogelman I completely understand. Even with fat people or ugly people, you still need that right connection when it comes to looks and appearance. And she stated it very well when she said, its because of all the rejection she got, she if anyone has more of a right to be biased about those things and can live with herself. The one thing I didn't like is the way she would attack the firm as a whole when trying to bring in that asbestos client. I felt for her, and felt the firm was unfair, but the way she approached it was too aggressive... But all in all I really like her, she brought a real strength to the show. Some real grit.

I didn't care much for Rebecca and Jimmy I thought of the same. But I did see where DEK was going with these characters. And so I could appreciate their value.
They were of value to the show to give that balance...

The case where Rebecca belittled the defendant, I think it was the case where the husband spent all his time concocting a plan to kill his wife by making a table and a weapon from the same material and wrote very detailed and specific plans and journals of the event... She made him out to be a loser in every sense of the word. That he had no life, no future and that fantasy world he created was all he had.. That wasn't her, that was exactly how it was. His wife felt that way and the son felt that way and it was expressed. So she was only pointing out what wasn't completely clear, but still very real and the best defense for him. however I think the ruling was unfair, he was found not guilty, but if it was me in the jury, there wouldn't be any other verdict than guilty. If anyone was guilt of attempted murder or would be foreseeable that it would go further this was it.



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Why did Eleanor cover up her JJ's in the show?

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No, but I could not stand Lucy. Holy crap I wanted her dead a thousand times over. She was a major pain in the ass. David E. Kelley always has incredibly irritating characters on his shows.

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"David E. Kelley always has incredibly irritating characters on his shows."

Would you prefer having a show where every single character is likable and everybody got along with each other and shared similar views? Or would you like a TV show with a few characters who are unlikable and who do bring conflict and opposing opinions? I prefer conflict. It makes for much more interesting television.

As much as you hated Lucy, you must have enjoyed the episode where the landlord was videotaping her in the shower, and we got to see her bare ass, right? I certainly did!

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Keep in mind, George was not a psycho or a killer, he was framed the whole time by the police department. Good Lord, this is why people who are falsely accused in real life are basically treated by society like they're guilty and can't find employment.

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George was a psycho. Didn't you see the episode where he dressed as a nun and stabbed Lindsay? Then, next season he drugged Helen in the shower and tried to kille Eleanor.

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I've only seen the 1st 3 seasons and season 8, and a few episodes here and there of the other ones. But I'm pretty sure that the guy who shot Lindsay was different than the George that Elenor met on the dating service.

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First, Lindsay was stabbed (not shot) by a man in a nun suit. And it was the very same George from Eleanor's dating service. I remember because I was completely blown away when they showed George walking the streets wearing a nun's habit.

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Ok, I gotcha, I guess I was thinking of when Lindsay shot a man in the 7th season. I didn't really see anything from season 4-6 at all. So, I just knew George as the lovable guy who was framed for murder. It's said that they made his character into a bad guy then.

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I liked Ellenor. I have been rewatching the earlier seasons and I have watched the first four seasons in their entirety. I must say that the episodes where Bobby is the main character are the worst. They are simply badly written (for example seasons 4's Settling, Black Widows and Death Penalties). I never understood why Lindsay married such an annoying man.

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yeah she loved her job, so much so she was unable to hold back, and cross examined a man to death.

the show was about the inability of the lawyers, defense that is, to see and accept reality. recall the scene where the recently paroled serial killer was trying to get arrested and jailed again, Lindsey's expression was all about getting her client absolved of his new crime.

yes, the premise is the need to provide defendants with legal councel, but there are limits to human ethics, not just lawyerly ones.

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Season 3 finale episode is when Lindsey was stabbed by George. He was a psycho and he was the nun killer.

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Eleanor looks like a sad puppy most of the time. She was really pathetic in that dispute with Lindsey and Bobby over the partnership earnings (S3.E15). Same with Eugene, Mr. Scowl-face, That the practice collapsed with the departures of Lindsey and Bobby (and later Alan Shore) spoke volume about the business acumen of these two, Puppy-face and Scowl-face.

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I never hated her tho she was kind of a hard ass sometimes and she is not an attractive female at all but she was a good lawyer and she was compassionate and driven about her work.

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Ellenor was my number 1 hate. She was an insolent bitch who was disrespectful of Bobby and who screwed up Lindey's trial for murder. Bobby made a mistake in making her partner. She should have been written out after S.7 and Lindsey rejoined as one of the partners.

I nicknamed Ellenor the "sad puppy face" because that was how she looked most of the time, sad and a loser.

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Yeah, me. She is my No.1 hate. I nicknamed her Sad-faced Puppy. Her bitchiness was laid bare for all to see in "Lawyers, Reporters and Cockroaches"(#3.15) when she griped about Lindsey's pay. The remuneration system was performance based, so if she had wanted to earn more she would have to measure up, which she did not due to her own inadequacy. Instead she took it out on Lindsey.

Her type was a loser and she needed to get laid more often. She did not deserve to be made partner and Bobby should have fired her after that Vogelman debacle. She was not a brilliant lawyer and screwed up Lindsey's murder trial. The reason she did not leave was because she could not have made it elsewhere. Only a fool like Bobby, with misguided sentiments, accommodated her.

I would have loved to see her character killed off - e.g., she could have been killed by Vogelman, instead of being saved by Helen. She was so pathetic that she even attended Vogelman's memorial service. That was how low her life had sunk to, that Sad-faced Puppy.

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I have been watching this taking in multiple episodes at a time and am now up to series five episode 8.

I found myself disliking Eleanor very early on and that dislike has increased. If she is representing certain frustrations of the overly large women than she if that is not her underlying persona the awards are indeed due for such an excellent portrayal of someone she is not.

She did lead us in to an early view of not liking criticism. She has given us many glimpses of the attitude that the younger pretty sexual Lindsay/Kelli could steal the direction of the firm. The fact that Linsday IS going to be seen as more attractive is one thing but the writers have also shown that this young Lady is indeed the bees knees as a lawyer. She doesn't really need to be in a dead end somewhat shady firm. My impression is that her feelings for Booby outweigh the desires to be the richest lawyer in town.

The subject of this post has shown that her rejection of the blind date character and what might be seen as a disastrous date did not affect her defence of that man. That is about the only plus mark I can give.

I saw a soft side of her when she came to the other fatty in the firm to assist him in gaining partnership. Yeah really soft and warm side. That helped me in my continuance of viewing her as disturbed manipulative individual. Always looking for acceptance. She is so typical of the character/ real person who asks how their rear end looks in clothing waiting the lying compliment and woe betide the truthful answer.

Camryn Manheim in another role may have excited me regarding character portrayal. The character for me has no likable traits on display. While she has the build of /Bull and the mouth of pure hate at times [yes i know she is a sad lonely unattractive for the most part woman]she couldn't even back this up when attacked across the very table by a very tiny Lindsay. The writers couldnt even give us a better look at Kelli in full flight.

Eleanors character is living out her hatred for the world in general by her claim to be upholding the principles of a LAW system which I have to laugh at and hope it never arrives on our British shores in the format I am seeing rolled out in this series. I never saw those methods rolled out in the Perry Mason type shows but the implication is that Perry Mason never defended a guilty person. The Law is an ass when we view some of these story lines.

I have not warmed to the Character Bobby but then the actor Dylan McDermott who I have viewed recently on the series American Horror did not endear me. Maybe his role is not to be seen as one you can sympathize with.

I certainly would not trust him to sleep in the same bed as Lindsay and Helen especially if they had just been having a wet tee shirt fight.

I have warmed to Jimmy so fat is not my problem and he has displayed insecurities. Lindsay I like because I just fell in a state of unrequited love for Foster [lie to me ] The only reason i started watching this was to see the younger Kelli growing up. I can say that she may not be able to do a great varieties of character as she is so similar in movements to Foster.

I am NOT annoyed By Lucy who of course would be sacked by a serious Law firm, but as you must appreciate this is a fictional one.

Eugene while adopting the defend at all costs role show us always that he has internal demons and his underlying distrust of law enforcement is often on his sleeve.

I have enjoyed Rebecca's character progression. The only problem is that her sudden passing the bar came as a complete surprise to everyone yet our annoying Lucy managed to work out something rather easily with the pregnancy thing which shows that Eleanor doesn't even have a HOME address to take potential Wierdo lovers back to. IS ELEANOR actually a VIRGIN. Is this going to be a revelation when she delivers.

Unfortunately the previous post has given me a little clue as to future events but that is not a problem as I have been playing out potentials in my mind and that fact that Eleanor has been in all the episodes shows me that unless Bobby Ewing has just stepped out of the shower during the last episode and is going to Boston to blow up a law firm nothing much is going to happen to this lady.

I have enjoyed and i am perhaps a little sick the character relationship of Lindsay and Helen. The screen views would make you think that they have a very deep mostly trusting relationship. I am very fond of the Helen legal character who gives a genuine sympathetic face to the prosecution. While she is not my ideal in my sort of woman as she is perhaps a little toooo slim she has appealed as a character also with internal demons. Bobby has not appreciated her unless she has agreed with him and his character shouts and stomps around far too much. I also have a little problem with Bobby having friends [he has to defend]in high places when his rise would not in my opinion have taken him to any of those lofty places to become friends with them . I am waiting to find the eventual outcome of the man whose wife gassed herself in the garage. And how he defends the murder he witnessed. I had thought that Eleanor's non boy friend might have been the father of her child causing a problem down the road. I even thought that the view of him in the nuns costume would have been shown to be no more suspicious that the Judges Party costume. I can also see that he has taken the rejection thing very far and may even be a serial killer. But for the life of me I don't see why he has not killed Eleanor by now. Nor why he did injure Lindsay. BTW what organs were affected in Lindsays incident. Obviously no question of motherly organs affected or will that cause a problem when giving birth. I predict that Eleanor will require the whole legal team to be involved with her efforts.

She had better get some serious cases under her belt to cope with the expenses. The hours she works will reduce methinks so less income unless having had the child she farms it out 22 hours a day so she does not have to worry about killing the crying annoying little ********************.

Eleanor is a complete turn off but I am liking Jimmy, Helen and loving, I know it's wrong, Lindsay.

Camryn Manheim I would need to see in some other show as a different sort of character but I am not going hunting at present.









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It seemed that Eleanor always wore clothes that hid her huge breasts,,I think she was a J cup...but on other shows she has no problem showing them off.

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Camryn Manheim has a smug about her that can be really grating. It serves the character, but it does rub me the wrong way.

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