I think this is the first time I've seen a 1 on 1 battle filmed (at least part of it) from above. Great way to get a good view of the fight. I mean the final battle between Wilfred and Brian.
I think most of the actors did a good job in this one. But especially Ciaran Hinds as Brian de Bois Guilbert and Ralph Brown as Prince Johan.
I'm surprised noone has yet posted here
Ralph Brown as Prince John was brilliant. He cannot be praised too highly.
shareI was shocked by all the actors in this, each one was brilliant. There was not one actor in the cast that disappointed me and I fell in love with Cirien Hinds in this... I mean I always felt sympathy for Brian de Bois-Guilbert in the book but in the movie, I just fell in love with him and part of me really wanted Rebecca to just love him back. lol Hinds was amazing in this, I'd seen him in other stuff but his performance in this gave me goose bumps more then once:) Christopher Lee was great too, talk about creepy, you just hate him, he's such a great bad guy. Another surprising good actor was Chris Walker, I really liked Athelsane in this and never really cared for him either way in the book...this movie had some awesome casting for sure.
shareI've always loved all the scenes in this between Rebecca (Susan Lynch) and Bois Guilbert (Ciarán Hinds). Hinds and Lynch play those so well, imho. Just makes every girl want to find herself her very own debauched, raping, pillaging crusader. ...well, okay, maybe not... ;-) But I can certainly sympathize with the falling in love with Sir Brian idea.
Then there's boring Sir Wilfred....he might get all the babes, but he's still a bore. Laying about injured through half of it and then popping up to win his combats on cue. What a yawn-inspirerer. :-)
I know! Thats exactly how I feel about sir wilfred! He's too damn perfect, too honorable, too honest, too sweet and too thoughtful. I'd be bored to tears being with a man like that. Yeah Ivanhoe is awesome but he's too awesome, his lines he used on Rebecca were too sappy. lol Now take Bois Guilbert, wow, talk about a raw guy. His blunt honesty with Rebecca and tortured heart is enough to make any woman want to cuddle him and make him feel better. lol Yes, okay, bois guilbert was really, really bad for a long time but the fact that he fell in love changed all that and personally when he comes to rebecca the night before she is to be burned for a witch and tells he to just go,with or without him, THAT is the exact moment I would have gone with him. It proved finally that he wasn't just after her to piss off Ivanhoe. Really Rebecca, what were you thinking:)
share"when he comes to rebecca the night before she is to be burned for a witch and tells he to just go,with or without him,"
I've always really liked that scene.
But, of course, its painful because you know what's going to happen: Her refusal means combat between Sir Brian and Ivanbore...I mean Ivanhoe...and, hmmmm, I wonder who wins?! Ho Hum. Of course, I realize that's the way such stories have to work, but still, one can wish! :-)
"His blunt honesty with Rebecca and tortured heart is enough to make any woman want to cuddle him and make him feel better."
Those big, intense eyes don't hurt any either. :-)
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OH I'll never forget those eyes, trust me. lol I'm a sinch to love brown eyes anyway but his were espacially cool for sure ;)
shareWhich makes it especially bad when Ivanwho? wallops one of his eyes out at the end. lol! The horror. :)
Not sure how well the make-up department did on that fake bashed eye...Looked a little odd. :)
I thought it looked great. But I think his eyes are darkgreen and not brown.
share>>But I think his eyes are darkgreen and not brown.<<
Yes, they definately have green in them -- although I don't know about the 'dark' part, necessarily. They seem to look different with different lighting (as human eyes are apt to do, I suppose. :-) Sometimes they look very green, sometimes brown, sometimes some sort of hazel-like mixture of the two.
Her refusal means combat between Sir Brian and Ivanbore...I mean Ivanhoe...and, hmmmm, I wonder who wins?! Ho Hum. Of course, I realize that's the way such stories have to work, but still, one can wish! :-)
@kambo63 and others:
He is NOT IVANBORE. He's the most important character in the film. He's supposed to be the way he is, which is the way that Sir Walter Scott characterised him.
Ivanhoe is one of Scott's moderating characters; he is also idealized, a fact that has, historically, caused problems for readers and viewers; he is, finally, what Northrop Frye, one of Scott's most perceptive readers, calls him, a moral ideal in the tradition of the romance genre, which is different from that of the realistic novel. He is the kind of figure he's supposed to be in Scott's ethical scheme.
shareInteresting info. I read the book when I was in my late teens and found Ivanhoe a rather boring character; that he was the true type of hero for Regency era readers, but just didn't fit into latter 20th century idealology of heroes. Too good, too honourable etc. In this production he is given his flaws, but then like so many other viewers, it was Ciaran Hinds as Bois Guilbert that caught my attention, showing how an anti-hero can win his admirers. A great actor!
shareRebecca was thinking of her faith and that fact that she was her beloved father's only child. At this time Jews were dying the death of martyrs rather than relinquishing their faith. A Jewish woman of those times who married outside the faith was dead to her family. A marriage between Bois-Guilbert and Rebecca or Ivanhoe and Rebecca would have been almost impossible in that time. The Jewish wife would not have been accepted by the husband's family or the community and by marrying outside the faith the wife would have lost her own family and community.
Rebecca's faith and principles made her unattainable to Sir Brian. That was her great attraction. I don't think he would have been so obsessed by, or willing to sacrifice his life for,(remember, he was incapable of sacrificing it even for his King), a lesser woman.
Also it should be remembered that it was Ivanhoe, and not sir Brian, with whom Rebecca was in love, even though it was possible to detect in Susan Lynch's portrayal of Rebecca a certain sympathy for Bois-Guilbert after he reluctantly allowed his motives to become purer (to save Rebecca without much hope of the reward he desired.)
I have followed the discussion of Ivanhoe the character with interest because there are so many different views of him expressed on the boards. Let me simply remark that he's the way he's supposed to be; he's the way Sir Walter Scott conceived him; he's a mediating type of character frequently found in Scott's novels. He's MEANT to be a contrast--a foil, if you will--to Bois-Guilbert and similar villains. Viewers may prefer Bois-Guilbert: He is somewhat more colorful than Ivanhoe. But please give Ivanhoe a chance. The film would lose a great deal without him.
share@ primadonnaflots
Ivanhoe is SUPPOSED TO BE the way he is. Please see my remarks elsewhere in the discussion.
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'Cept for personal use I concur.
Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.
The duel at the end is one of the most brutal and realistic I've ever seen. And yes, Ciaran Hinds is absolutely stellar as Bois-Gilbert.
share>I thought the scenes he was in were the least interesting in the film.<
Which "he" are you referring to?
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