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Ally is supposed to be 27 in Season 1?


I know I'm a little late to the party but I was in middle school when this show aired so I just recently started watching season 1 on netflix. Anyone else find it a bit hard to believe that Ally is 27? So Billy is 27? Georgia is 27? I mean please. Why didn't they just have the characters be closer to the actors' age? How does that impact the story? It's not like it's set in high school. It was just ridiculously hard to believe that Georgia and Billy were that age.

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Calista Flockhart was extremely young looking. I've seen plenty of people in their mid-20's who look much older than Calista in season 1.

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She was already 33 in season 1.

I think what's really laughable was all these young lawyers under 30 in charge of their own firm. Why is TV obsessed with giving big success to people under 30? This very rarely happens unless these kids inherit it from their families. And what about their outrageous student loans from harvard? Where the hell did they get the money to open that firm, rent the space, and hire all those people? We're just supposed to believe these 20 somethings are genius and rich enough to get so much business in an urban area like that?

I let the obvious inaccurate portrayal of the court system slide, but this I can't.

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Yeah it's complete bs. Society/media loves to paint these ridiculous ideals of what women should aspire to. In real life Ally would be a homely looking gal working 70 hour weeks in a big law firm doing grunt work trying to pay off her student loans. She would prob be too busy and focused to be crying about men at that point in her life.

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It's as easy to swallow as Carrie on Sex & the City writing a weekly column, living in New York City and affording many, many pairs of $400 shoes.
Let's be real....how many people would have watched the show if these people had been a realistic age for their circumstances?

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Yeh I always found it hard to buy Ally, Georgia and Billy as being 27. They all looked mid 30's to me. The only ones who looked like they were actually in their 20's was Nelle (when she didnt wear her hair in that tight bun) and Ling.

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Nelle and Ling never looked like they were in their 20's.

Ohhh, a lesson in not changing history from "I'm my own grandpa".

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Portia de Rossi was only like 24 when she filmed season one lol. The only reason she looked older was because of all the makeup, hair buns and suits they used to put on her. When she had her hair down and less makeup you could easily see she was in her 20's.

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Yes, Calista Flockhart was already in her early 30's playing a 27 year old in Season 1. Just like there are now people in their mid to late twenties playing teenagers on Glee. It wasn't a stretch to believe she was that age. Cage and Fish were supposed to be in their mid thirties, but Greg Germann was nearly 40 in Season 1 and Peter MacNicol was already in his mid forties when his character was turning 35. As far as Billy's age - I had thought that he and Ally were supposed to be the same age, after all they were childhood sweethearts. But on the episode where he died, it said on his headstone 1968-2000, which would make him 32. Ally turned 30 a couple of episodes later.

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Not meaning to jump in on this, but just wanna point out that in one of the first few episodes Fish mentions not being 30 yet.

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But on the episode where he died, it said on his headstone 1968-2000, which would make him 32. Ally turned 30 a couple of episodes later.
Thanks for the spoiler, you want to put the episode number down too? lol

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Spoiler?

Really?

It happened in 2000.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't make it a spoiler, but it is funny you'd be on a discussion forum for a show you haven't seen all the way through, complaining about spoilers, since people will be discussing it freely as it's been over for a decade. If it was news about an upcoming episode that hadn't yet aired, then it would be a spoiler.

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Portia de Rossi wasn't in season one...

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I let the obvious inaccurate portrayal of the court system slide, but this I can't.


WORD. I sense another 20-something lawyer... High five sister

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especially unbelievable was the idea that richard was a founder

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Ally and Billy as 27 year olds was a little bit of a stretch, but possible.

In 1 of the first few episodes, Richard Fish said, "I'm not even 30 yet." That surprised me. I know they said he went to school with Ally at Harvard, but he looked much older. In season 1 he looked at least 35. John Cage looked like he was in his early 40s.

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John Cage wasn't supposed to be young, was he?


Forgive me, I'm lacking some details as I'm just watching season 1 for the first time as well, but I have yet to figure out the real back story to Richard and John. Richard obviously went to school with Ally hence the connection to hire her, but how did Cage know Fish? Cage has always come off as the older, wiser senior partner leading the young pups in their firm. If the show runners are/were honestly attempting to make me buy that John Cage is the same age as Ally, Billy, Georgia, and Richard, they're nuts! Not that Peter MacNicol looked old or anything, but he was 43 in 1997, hardly the age of a "fresh out of law school" attorney.

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John is supposed to be relatively young. He's shockingly only five years older than Ally.

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The problem is that it's unrealistic and unnecessary.Why does the lady have to have it all by 30? Why couldnt she be 33? or 35 or whatever? Why is her being 20something important to the story? btw her love interest and his wife dont look 27 at all- it gets to a point where it's like come on now why lie to the audience? Why? Ya I know 33 isnt old no one was saying that so stop getting defensive about age.

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Maybe it has to do with your perception of things. Lots of famous celebs/athletes are your age and still hailed as attractive and desirable and stuff. Did you say GrandPA? You are a guy? Then you don't have it nearly as bad as women do. Your success/desirability isn't measured by something as arbitrary as youth & beauty & you aren't brainwashed into believing that you are a failure if you are single. An unmarried man at 31 doesn't have the same social stigma that his female counterpart does-obv depends on region. if it bugs you so much insulate yourself from the things/people who make you feel old.

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Actually both CTS and Gill Bellows were both 29 when the first season started so not too much older than the 27 they were playing..

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i'm sorry but i dont see the problem here.

Ally looks 27. she could also be 30, and also 26. but 27 seems about right. some people look 22 when they are 27, and some people look 40 when they are 30.

Billy, well he looks older, but as i was saying, possible since some people just look older.

as for the storline - i agree it is BS that people at that age are reasonably to have their own firm and be successful lawyers already, making tons of money.
like someone said about sex& the city - Carey living in NY writing a column for a paper and affording nice appartment and dinners out and whatever...

but as for the age and how they look - take a look at your friends and tell me if they look so much more different.

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I watched this show when I was in my mid teens and remember thinking how successful and sophisticated these women were. Now I'm older than these characters were in season 1 and it does seem hard to believe. I think it would have been best to have made them in their early 30's because they were too successful for the ages they were portraying.

Also Portia wasn't in the show until season 2 was she? She would have been 25 then, but she does seem older than that, certainly in looks, but also behaviour.

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I know this is late. At the time when the show aired it was completely believable and it wasn't much of a stretch. Bear in mind this was filmed in 1996 and aired in 1997. So Gil Bellows(Billy) and Courtney Thourne Smith(Georgia) were both 29. They were both born in 1967. I don't think it was much of a stretch to get them to play characters 2 years younger.People don't age much in two years. Really, Ally is 27 going on 28 in season 1 so technically she's 28 which would make Billy and Georgia 28 also. Calista herself was 32 when she filmed season 1 so again I don't think 4 years is much of a stretch and I agree with some of the comments, Calista was very young and fresh faced looking for her age.

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Richard makes a case for why he started up his own firm...... for the MONEY. He performs a speech for a client about how the law can be used as a weapon, to ruin, destroy, decapitate, and other wise clobber someone. (he also likes to repeat himself, over and over.......)

While it may be implausible, these characters would be late to the party in the facebook era. So I wonder how a generation that was in kindergarten back in 96 is so closed minded.

ps, for a more reality based procedural, look at the practice.

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Who cares really? This is nothing new in the business. These people looked younger than their age which made them suitable to play younger characters. It's not that much of a stretch.

As for reality, I don't know why today's generation are constantly craving for realism. What happened with watching movies and TV for the sake of being entertained?
How fun would it be if this or Sex And City followed reality and portrayed it as it was? That doesn't lure enough viewers. Because no one wants to be reminded of reality, that's the sad truth.

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"Why didn't they just have the characters be closer to the actors' age? How does that impact the story? It's not like it's set in high school."

I agree. I just started watching this show out of curiosity while browsing Hulu (because I began reflecting on its wild but brief/fleeting popularity back in the 90s including the 'dancing baby' weirdness). When Ally said she was 27 in one episode I did find that rather jarring. Calista Flockhart may have not been much older than that, but as an actress over 30 there was no reason she couldn't be portraying her own age in a show whose premise did NOT necessitate making her younger. The show's premise in fact, concerns a woman who while successful in her law career, is rather 'worn down' by life and haunted by her biological clock and failure to fulfill her dreams of a big family. Uh, doesn't that sound like someone closer to 37? What would make an evidently intelligent woman think it realistic to have finished building her career AND her big nuclear family less than a decade out of high school? No one ever told her there are only so many hours in the day?

Fact is, career-hyperfocused women throughout their 20s tend to be so consumed in a life of grinding and 'climbing the ladder' that babies (let alone DANCING ones) are rarely at the front of their minds. It would be rather illogical to be fretting about 27 being 'too late' when you CHOSE to put your career first. Still, this understandably starts to change after these women reach their 30s and 1) they are feeling in a more secure place to settle down 2) the countdown on their unused eggs becomes hard to continue ignoring. While Ally's just a TV character, she seems to be one who pursued the classic feminist career path while thinking that classic traditional motherhood was just as easily within reach. This would indicate that she is unbelievably naive, and doesn't comprehend the importance of time, sacrifice and patience in building a life...not to mention the hard work that 'having it all' will ALSO take to continue maintaining.

Was Ally written to be simply THAT clueless in her understanding of life? Or was she maybe written as say, an illustration of how second wave feminism's promises to women could be horribly misleading enough to turn them into confused messes?
Hmm.

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