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They decided to make the final, 'boss' tornado an F5?


So, they're all at aunt Meg's house enjoying their meal, and they're explaining to Melissa about the F2 tornado and the F3 tornado and the F4 tornado. And then Melissa asks them if there's an F5.

And everyone suddenly gets very quiet like she'd just said something incredibly profane to a six-year-old.

Well, actually, that'd be alright with me. What they really did was suddenly get real quiet as though no one could have possibly anticipated that she might ask the next logical question after having an F3 and F4 tornado described to her.

But anyway, that's not even what I'm wondering about; it's just a bizarre little scene that leads up to it. What I'm wondering about is, since the vibe they were obviously going for at the climax of the movie was the tornado-to-end-all-tornadoes, why did they settle for handing us an F5?

Now, granted, this was made back in 1996, and there were no F6 tornadoes ever having occurred on record at that point. In fact, there still aren't, even today as 2014 is fast approaching. The point is, a tornado with the highest windspeed on record happened just a couple years ago, in 2011, I think, a really strong F5 that came THIS short (only 2MPH if I recall) of being an F6, and even back in 1996, the possibility of one wasn't even considered unlikely, much less totally implausible or impossible.

It just seems to me that, if they had wanted to give the audience the impression of a truly devastating tornado, they should have written it so that the final encounter was with a tornado described as being the first in history to push the speed record into a new category. An F6 would not only have been entirely reasonable to conclude the film with (even back in '96, the strongest F5s weren't more than a dozen or so MPH out of range), but it would have represented a novel phenomenon for the characters to explore (granted, it'd've been new territory only quantitatively, not qualitatively of course, but it'd've atleast still been something).

(They could also have made the tornado look as big as they said it was; seriously, the size of the funnel wasn't anywhere even remotely close to the "mile-wide" diameter the dialogue describes it as.)

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I hated how they had to explain the Fujita scale to another Oklahoman. Everyone here knows about it.

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Right, because everyone in the audience knows about it right? That is what a teacher of mine from high school referred to as a feather duster. Apparently it's name after some tradition in the theater. Anyway, it's purpose is to convey knowledge to the audience that they need to know in order to understand a plot point. This is usually accomplished by having someone in the scene that would have no idea what is being talked about and this allows the others who do know to talk about it.

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If people don't stay up on that stuff, they tend to bury that knowledge. Melissa was one of them.

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There is no such thing as an F-6. Even on the Enhanced Fujita scale there is no EF-6 (EF-5 is winds greater than 200MPH with no upper delineation). The reason being that the Fujita and EF scales classify tornadoes based on damage ("how much it eats"). F/EF-5 indicates total annihilation. You can't destroy more than everything..

The EF scale went into effect in 2007, because Fujita grossly overestimated the wind speeds required to do certain amounts of damage. No tornado after 1/31/07 would have been "this close to F6", because the EF scale has no upper limit for EF-5. The one you are referring to (Moore, OK - '99) was nowhere near the upper limit of the F5 rank. There were two tornadoes that day that had ground-level wind speeds of approximately 260MPH. The 300+MPH speeds were measured by Doppler-On-Wheels several hundred feet above ground level, and Fujita does not use AGL winds as a factor, since they do not directly cause the damage..

The fact that they are 'classifying' tornadoes by sight and radar (and even "predicting an F-5") at all is actually erroneous/creative license. Because (especially back then) tornado wind speeds can not be clocked in real time without the right equipment in the right place, tornadoes are not classified until official damage surveys are done - which may be several days later. This also means that tornadoes which occur in places where there is little to destroy (such as an open field) can never be accurately classified. And while the Storm Prediction Center has gotten very accurate as far as predicting where conditions are favorable for tornadic development, they still can't predict exactly when or where a tornado will form or how strong it will be.

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Probably the most interesting and informative post I've ever read on IMDb. Thank you!

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I was just going to say that!

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That's actually one of the things I dislike about the movie. On one hand it's a movie about nature but it has a structure of having a big boss. The movie make it seem like the team is out to get revenge on the big bad tornado.

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It's basically Moby Dick except they don't all die at the end.

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<<It just seems to me that, if they had wanted to give the audience the impression of a truly devastating tornado, they should have written it so that the final encounter was with a tornado described as being the first in history to push the speed record into a new category. >>

They did, didn't they? After the final tornado dissipated, when the gang runs up to Jo & Bill at the water pump house, one of them says something to the effect that the tornado was the strongest one on record, or largest, or fastest, or something.

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I believe the reason they all went quiet was because it was an F5 that took Jo's dad. So it's an automatic downer subject

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ONLY an F5 you say? Only the highest category ever recorded?

That's what some people want from action movies. More! Bigger! The biggest in history!

The film was big enough and bombastic enough already. The LAST thing it needed was to be even bigger.



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Good points. More problems with this movie.

I gotta go feed that thing in Room 33.

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They may have been saving it for a sequel, it may have just been false rumours but I heard years ago they were making a sequel featuring a tornado similar to the Tri State Tornado.

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They may have been saving it for a sequel, it may have just been false rumours but I heard years ago they were making a sequel featuring a tornado similar to the Tri State Tornado.


I'm not sure it would be possible to do a film about a fictional tornado similar to the Tri State Tornado and have people believe it. Or, for that matter, keep it under budget. Also, the descriptions of that tornado are not especially cinematic--scary as hell but not cinematic. The Galveston Hurricane is similar. Some famous disasters don't translate well to the screen, at least not unless you jump straight to horror.

I'd think the tornado at the end of the film could be classified as an F-5 rather easily based on all the wind speed and vector data they got from the Dorothy device.

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